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001 Differentiation
002 'Real' maths
003 Fractions
004 Manipulatives
005 Assessment
006 What technology?
007 Adult curriculum
008 Reflective Learners
009 Engagement
010 Class Time Use
011 Why I hate maths
012 Terminology
013 'Mathphobia'
014 The Nature of Maths
015 Show and Tell
016 Vertical Integration
017 Product to Process
018 Investigation Length
019 Preparation for Work
020 Success in Mathematics
021 Groupwork
022 Effective lessons
023 Impact of ICT
024 Mathematics Websites
028 Why under 16?
2010.07.15 Differentiation
2010.07.19 Differentiation (2)
2010.07.22 'Real' maths
2010.07.26 'Real' maths (2)
2010.07.29 Fractions
2010.08.02 Fractions (2)
2010.08.05 Manipulatives
2010.08.09 Manipulatives (2)
2010.08.12 Assessment
2010.08.16 Assessment (2)
2010.08.19 What tech?
2010.08.23 What tech? (2)
2010.08.26 Adult maths
2010.08.30 Adult maths (2)
2010.09.02 Reflective learner
2010.09.06 Reflective learner 2
2010.09.09 Engagement
2010.09.13 Engagement 2
2010.09.16 Class Time Use
2010.09.20 Class Time Use 2
2010.09.23 Why I hate maths
2010.09.27 Why I hate math 2
2010.09.30 Terminology
2010.10.04 Terminology 2
2010.10.07 'Mathphobia'
2010.10.11 'Mathphobia' (2)
2010.10.14 Nature of Maths
2010.10.18 Nature of Maths (2)
2010.10.21 Show and Tell
2010.10.25 Show and Tell (2)
2010.10.28 Vertical Integration
2010.11.01 Vertical Integratn 2
2010.11.04 Product to Process
2010.11.08 Product to Proc. 2
2010.11.11 Investigation length
2010.11.15 Investigation leng 2
2010.11.18 Prepn for work
2010.11.22 Prepn for work 2
2010.11.25 Success in Maths
2010.12.03 Groupwork
2010.12.06 Groupwork 2
2010.12.10 Effective lessons
2010.12.13 Effective Lesson 2
2010.12.17 Impact of ICT
2010.12.20 Impact of ICT 2
2010.12.24 Maths Websites
2011.01.03 Maths Website 2
2011.01.07 Ideal curriculum
2011.01.10 Ideal curriculum 2
2011.01.14 Short or longterm
2011.01.17 Short or longterm2
2011.01.21 Continuing PD
2011.01.24 Continuing PD 2
2011.01.28 Why under 16?
2011.01.31 Why under 16? (2)
2011.02.04 Which is more fun?
2011.02.11 Blended learning
2011.02.14 Blended learning 2
2011.02.18 Fast tracking
2011.02.21 Fast tracking (2)
2011.02.25 Misconceptions
2011.02.28 Misconceptions 2
2011.03.04 Good Reads
2011.03.07 Good Reads (2)
2011.03.11 How do I  fractions
2011.03.18 How do I  lang
2011.03.21 How do I  lang (2)
2011.03.25 How do I  curric
2011.03.28 How do I  curric 2
2011.04.01 How?  next topic
2011.04.04 How?  nxt topic 2
2011.04.08 How?  Geometry
2011.04.11 How?  Geom 2
2011.04.15 How?Investigation
2011.04.18 How?Investigatn 2
2011.04.22 How? Do vs. learn
2011.04.25 How?Do vs learn 2
2011.04.29 How?Dig deeper
2011.05.02 How?Dig deeper 2
2011.05.06 'Big Ideas'
2011.05.09 'Big Ideas' (2)
2011.05.13 High school skill
2011.05.16 High school skill 2
2011.05.20 Journals
2011.05.23 Journals (2)
2011.05.27 Studentdriven
2011.05.30 Studentdriven (2)
2011.06.03 How?  Maths play
2011.06.06 How?Maths play 2
2011.06.10 Deeper thinking
2011.06.13 Deeper thinking (2)
2011.06.17 How?  Disjointed
2011.06.17 How?  Disjointed 2
2011.06.24 How?  Problems
2011.06.27 How?  Problems 2
2011.07.01 Holiday maths
2011.10.28 Extent of plans
2011.10.31 Extent of plans (2)
2011.11.04 Authentic is..?
2011.11.07 Authentic is..? (2)
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Topic:
How do I teach to a specific, prescribed curriculum?
As it happened on
Friday, 25th March 2011, 00:00  01:00 GMT
mathfour
:
@
MmeVeilleux
I'm here now. If you missed it, I did too. #
mathchat
padgets
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
I am here too!!!
12:01 am
mathfour
:
@
padgets
Sweet! Great to see you. #
mathchat
12:01 am
padgets
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
:0)
12:03 am
giaimojosephine
:
Josephine Giaimo here, will be presenting a math teaching game at NYU this weekend, am excited to be here! #
mathchat
12:03 am
mathfour
:
@
MmeVeilleux
And if we missed it, we would surely see Colin and the kids' leftover tweets. I see none. I think we're good. #
mathchat
12:03 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
Which math teaching game? #
mathchat
12:04 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
love games!! whyville is my fav
12:04 am
mathheadinc
:
RT @
mathchat
#
mathchat
: "How do I teach to a specific, prescribed curriculum?"
12:04 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
mathfour
It's a prototype I created which teaches theoretical and empirical probabilities in math and "real life" #
mathchat
12:04 am
MmeVeilleux
:
@
mathfour
Great! #
mathchat
Good point  dinner is cooking so I am free for a while :)
12:04 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
I've been playing with @
Sokikom
 it's pretty nifty. #
mathchat
12:05 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
thanks, I will check out Sokikom!
12:05 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
wow........
12:05 am
padgets
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
okie dokie what is Sokikom?
12:06 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
What does today's topic mean exactly? don't we all have a prescribed curriculum to follow?
12:06 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
Nifty  when can we play? #
mathchat
12:06 am
kestans
:
RT @
juglialoro
: Please help me introduce a great middle school math teacher @
lynnelambert
to the power of twitter. Please RT. #
edchat
#
mathchat
#
midleveled
12:06 am
mathheadinc
:
@
MmeVeilleux
I don't. I help kids understand theirs. #
mathchat
12:06 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
nope I don't
12:06 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
well...it's a card game, so...what state are you in?
12:06 am
mathfour
:
@
padgets
@
Sokikom
is an online social math game for grades 16. I'm on "Frachine" right now doing fractions. #
mathchat
12:06 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
Iowa
12:07 am
padgets
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
so how do i get to play? love games
12:07 am
mathfour
:
@
MmeVeilleux
Yeah  I'm often confused at the topics. Today's no different. #
mathchat
12:07 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
padgets
#
mathchat
...okay...as the song says...the difficult, I'll do right now...the impossible will take a little while...
12:07 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
I'm in Texas. #
mathchat
12:07 am
mathheadinc
:
@
MmeVeilleux
Otherwise, our curriculum is calculus for young people. #
mathchat
12:08 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
ok, so the math challenged science teacher needs some help LOL :0) @
giaimojosephine
12:08 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
...i hear a user interface design in my future...
12:08 am
mathfour
:
@
MmeVeilleux
I don't have a curriculum  I write a blog. Back in the teaching days, though, I was allowed to go renegade. #
mathchat
12:09 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
padgets
#
mathchat
tell us what you need...
12:09 am
mathfour
:
@
padgets
What's up? What'd I miss? What are you confused about. Now I'm lost. #
mathchat
12:09 am
ColinTGraham
:
Hi all, got here finally! Have you managed to work out what today's topic means yet or are we still discussing it? ;) #
mathchat
12:09 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
I got lost when you described the game LOL :0)
12:09 am
grammygraham
:
@
MmeVeilleux
we write our own curriculum based on the state standards #
mathchat
PA
12:10 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
Nope  still discussing it. As usual. :D #
mathchat
12:10 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
ColinTGraham
LOL  still discussing it
12:10 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
padgets
#
mathchat
it's a card game that's designed to encourage students to learn and/or estimate probabilities and odds...a prototype
12:10 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mathfour
@
MmeVeilleux
Ooh big surprise! #
mathchat
12:10 am
MmeVeilleux
:
Btw, this is my latest fave timewaster:
http://calculationnation.nctm.org/neXtu/Assets/neXtu.html
#
mathchat
12:10 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
ahh gotcha now!!
12:11 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
you know me need to explain EVERYTHIMG!!! LOL ;0)
12:11 am
ColinTGraham
:
Two aspects to today's topic: most of us are teaching to a curriculum, I hope! Most have had little say in curriculum content #
mathchat
12:11 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
see I cannot even spell :00
12:11 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
How can I get a copy? I can review it. #
mathchat
12:12 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
@
giaimojosephine
me too me too me too!!
12:13 am
ColinTGraham
:
In many cases curriculum, state/national reqments can be hugely constrictive, but are there ways of teaching 'outside the box'? #
mathchat
12:14 am
mathfour
:
@
lynnelambert
Welcome to twitter! Are you participating in #
mathchat
? #
mathchat
12:14 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
giaimojosephine
Hi Josephine, nice to have some 'new blood' for #
mathchat
!
12:14 am
mathheadinc
:
@
ColinTGraham
Of course, but most teachers teach what they learned in the education programs. #
mathchat
12:14 am
mathfour
:
Who teaches what grades (or subjects)? That might be a good start. #
mathchat
12:15 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
And this is where things get bad! #
mathchat
12:15 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
We teach K  college, up to 600+ level math. #
mathchat
12:15 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
I teach 9th grade science lurking and a learning from my math buds!!
12:16 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mathfour
Maybe better to say what areas of the curriculum seem particularly limiting.... or do you have textbooks imposed, etc.? #
mathchat
12:16 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Oh, the teachers teaching what they learned? They have to be brave enough to break the mold. #
mathchat
12:16 am
grammygraham
:
I teach mostly Algebra I #
mathchat
12:16 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
New student starting MON, middle school teacher was an art major. #
mathchat
12:17 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
I agree that we should be studentcentered in our tchg because we need 2use formative assessments & B responsive 2 lrnrs.
12:17 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mathheadinc
To begin with, maybe, but at what point to teachers starting departing from that 'pretaught' model? How? #
mathchat
12:17 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
I use the math that goes with physical science in 9th grade so pre algebra algebra a little geo
12:17 am
grammygraham
:
I find it hard to "teach outside the box" as I have to teach the foundation...Algebra I...but I'm working on it #
mathchat
12:17 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
Selfintro: I teach preservice tchrs at UBC.
12:18 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
And in reality, who has to teach so that kiddos pass certain achievement tests? #
mathchat
12:18 am
Leighbra
:
@
mathfour
We have a 7th grader who's finally "up to grade lvl" after being in public school & a 2nd grader doing "4th grade" math #
mathchat
12:18 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
Do you feel your mathematics content is 'dictated' by the physics, Sharon? #
mathchat
12:18 am
iamsammy84
:
#
mathchat
Im just a student in the credential program
12:18 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
thank you Colin! Glad to be here, learned about it through #
gtchat
12:18 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
Baking analogy: We first have to learn basic recipes & principles of baking B4 cr8ing our own recipes.
12:18 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
iamsammy84
Hi, thanks for joining us. #
mathchat
12:19 am
giaimojosephine
:
I teach mostly middle school math, but some preK through grey as well...#
mathchat
12:19 am
mathheadinc
:
@
ColinTGraham
I broke free with the help of, you guessed it, @
TheMathman
! #
mathchat
12:19 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
iamsammy84
Hi! What is the credential program?
12:19 am
grammygraham
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
mathheadinc
I use thinkpairshare, an interactive white board and classroom laptops (but I need to use them more) #
mathchat
12:19 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
well, yes and no I encourage kids to find multiple ways to solve the problem
12:19 am
mathfour
:
@
grammygraham
Can you teach bits and pieces outside the curriculum  like different methods to get at the same goals? #
mathchat
12:20 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
MmeVeilleux
Or we can experiment by cooking stuff for ourselves and then refining, if we feel brave enough... #
mathchat
12:20 am
mathfour
:
@
MmeVeilleux
I totally disagree. I cooked for years making things up. Sometimes good, sometimes bad. But always learning. #
mathchat
12:20 am
giaimojosephine
:
what areas ... seem particularly limiting.... or do you have textbooks imposed, etc.? #
mathchat
students don't get enough stats and probs!
12:20 am
mathheadinc
:
@
grammygraham
We use scratch paper, crayons, colored pencils...95% lowtech. #
mathchat
12:20 am
brianDowd
:
RT @
grammygraham
: I find it hard to "teach outside the box" as I have to teach the foundation...Algebra I...but I'm working on it #
mathchat
12:20 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathheadinc
: @
mathfour
New student starting MON, middle school teacher was an art major. #
mathchat
...how does that work???
12:20 am
grammygraham
:
@
MmeVeilleux
exactly! I'm still teaching/reminding Alg I students the basics like fractions and signed numbers. #
mathchat
12:21 am
fiteach
:
RT @
MmeVeilleux
: #
mathchat
Baking analogy: We first have to learn basic recipes & principles of baking B4 cr8ing our own recipes.
12:21 am
giaimojosephine
:
7th grader who's ... "up to grade lvl" after being in public school & a 2nd grader doing "4th grade" math #
mathchat
<==that's a challenge!
12:21 am
mathfour
:
@
MmeVeilleux
Furthermore, the more you mess up a recipe, the faster you learn. #
mathchat
12:21 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathfour
YES! I encourage the kids to find different ways to solve problems. #
mathchat
I try different things all the time!
12:22 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
He's struggling now in finite math. There may be a learning issue. I'll keep you posted. #
mathchat
12:22 am
ColinTGraham
:
I think many issues surrounding 'prescription' of curricula are more about teaching to tests/exams rather than curricula per se #
mathchat
12:22 am
delta_dc
:
@
giaimojosephine
I agree! Quantitative literacy requires a better understanding of stochastics #
mathchat
12:22 am
mathfour
:
AMEN! RT @
padgets
: @
ColinTGraham
well, yes and no I encourage kids to find multiple ways to solve the problem #
mathchat
12:22 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathheadinc
I use mini white boards for quick FA and review #
mathchat
12:22 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathfour
: @
MmeVeilleux
Furthermore, the more you mess up a recipe, the faster you learn. #
mathchat
12:23 am
missmc2
:
RT @
d_martin05
: Don't teach that; it's not on the test
http://t.co/SIHDACK
#
abed
#
abfuture
#
edreform
#
edchat
#
mathchat
12:23 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
giaimojosephine
It can be fairly common for there to be a 5year ability gap in a class of 13yos in England. #
mathchat
12:23 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
mathfour
I learn a lot from others rather than all innovation coming from myself. I make my own sense of it though.
12:23 am
padgets
:
@
delta_dc
#
mathchat
sorry but what is stochastics?
12:23 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
GREAT! That's the way to go. Totally (or 95%) low tech is awesome! (even my video posts are low tech!) #
mathchat
12:24 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
delta_dc
: @
giaimojosephine
..Quantitative literacy requires ...understanding of stochastics #
mathchat
..prob/stats = queen of mathematics
12:24 am
mathfour
:
@
grammygraham
You know why you teach them fractions? Because they used a calculator too early! ARG! #
mathchat
12:24 am
mathheadinc
:
@
grammygraham
My only objection is the short life of the markers! :) #
mathchat
12:24 am
delta_dc
:
@
padgets
just shorthand for probability and statistics, but now you've made me write it out anyway ;) #
mathchat
12:24 am
ColinTGraham
:
We have addressed issues of curriculum design in previous sessions, but here we should focus on creative ways of working within... #
mathchat
12:25 am
grammygraham
:
How do you use metacognition in math? #
mathchat
12:25 am
padgets
:
@
delta_dc
sorry.....#
mathchat
did not know...
12:25 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
That seems to be the real problem! #
mathchat
12:25 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
ColinTGraham
: @
giaimojosephinea
5year ability gap in a class of 13yos in England. #
mathchat
...<==a bit scary, doncha think, but BTDT!
12:25 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Kids love doing their own work, writing their own stuff. It makes a better impression on the memory. #
mathchat
12:25 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
BTDT?
12:25 am
mathfour
:
@
delta_dc
Not sure if you're losing @
padgets
, but you're losing me with those big fancy words. Ouch. #
mathchat
12:25 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathfour
I totally agree! When I first started teaching, they taught me that there was a fraction button on the calculator! #
mathchat
12:26 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
"7th grader up to..." grade what? #
mathchat
12:26 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathheadinc
Yes. I'm trying to figure out a solution for that. #
mathchat
12:26 am
padgets
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
I gone gone gone gone gone ......
12:26 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mathfour
I know those big words, but then I am almost 50% statistician in my maths hat! #
mathchat
12:26 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathfour
: @
mathheadinc
If they want high tech, maybe they can program their own computers (smile) to solve problems? #
mathchat
12:26 am
delta_dc
:
@
grammygraham
we have learners develop metacognitive memoirs  they take problem & write about rationale for their decisions. #
mathchat
12:26 am
mathfour
:
@
MmeVeilleux
No sense in doing it all yourself. Most of what I teach is stolen. #
mathchat
12:27 am
mathheadinc
:
@
grammygraham
My husband teaches. He's my scrap paper source :) #
mathchat
12:27 am
delta_dc
:
@
padgets
no worries :) #
mathchat
12:27 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
And the landfill aspect. We were much more sustainable and green with chalk! #
mathchat
12:27 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
ABSOLUTELY! "...program their own computers...#
mathchat
12:27 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
padgets
: @
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
BTDT?...Been There, Done That...
12:27 am
grammygraham
:
@
delta_dc
sounds similar to what I do...have them justify each step of a problem. #
mathchat
12:27 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
grammygraham
Metacognition, or thinking about thinking, is gradually getting into the system here, with increased communication #
mathchat
12:27 am
mackrellr
:
@
grammygraham
Reflection or summary of open ended applications of content. #
mathchat
12:28 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
thanks!
12:28 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Yeah, can't get high on chalk. Hate the smell of the markers, too. #
mathchat
12:28 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
Givin' us the smackdown again. *sigh* #
mathchat
12:28 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mathheadinc
No paperless classroom there then! #
mathchat
12:28 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathheadinc
: @
giaimojosephine
"7th grader up to..." grade what? #
mathchat
...9th...
12:28 am
mathfour
:
@
grammygraham
AAAA! Another big word. Metacognition? #
mathchat
12:28 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathfour
: @
MmeVeilleux
No sense in doing it all yourself. Most of what I teach is stolen. #
mathchat
12:29 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
getting my dictionary......
12:29 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
You're totally in my camp. #
mathchat
12:29 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
Thanks! Those kids are easy to teach with @
TheMathman
's methods. #
mathchat
12:29 am
grammygraham
:
@
mackrellr
true but I want to find a way to do it on a regular basis...possibly daily. Just can't figure out how to fit it in! #
mathchat
12:29 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mackrellr
Hi Rich, welcome to #
mathchat
Lots of new tweeps here today... great to see!
12:29 am
delta_dc
:
@
grammygraham
the narrative style appeals to some learners. And the memoir allows them to consider embellishing their ideas. #
mathchat
12:29 am
mathheadinc
:
@
ColinTGraham
Not paperless but recycle everything possible. #
mathchat
12:29 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathfour
metacognition...thinking about thinking #
mathchat
12:30 am
mathfour
:
@
grammygraham
http://mathfour.com/math
aroundus/confessionsofacalculatoraddict  that's me. #
mathchat
12:30 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
no talking here agenda strategy used
12:30 am
giaimojosephine
:
@
mathheadinc
#
mathchat
Will check out TheMathman
12:30 am
mathheadinc
:
@
earlsamuelson
Not this classroom! #
mathchat
12:30 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mathfour
Yes, Bon. I'm being Mr 'Badass' Moderator as you might say in your part of the world, y'all! #
mathchat
12:30 am
mathfour
:
@
padgets
Me too. hang in there, we'll get through this together. #
mathchat
12:31 am
padgets
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
Love YA!!
12:31 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
Exactly. I learned "Computer Math" on the Apple IIe #
mathchat
12:31 am
padgets
:
@
giaimojosephine
#
mathchat
(sigh) The Mathman is the bomb.....
12:31 am
grammygraham
:
@
delta_dc
can you elaborate on the memoir idea? #
mathchat
12:32 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
giaimojosephine
Don's (@
TheMathman
) calculus map is a very good starting point:
http://bit.ly/cNGVoT
#
mathchat
12:32 am
mathfour
:
@
grammygraham
We discussed in #
HSMath
(homeschool math chat) last week about NOT making kids show their work. #
mathchat
12:32 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
You must! And this 4th grade trig student
http://bit.ly/8gZH5
& 4yo algebra
http://twitpic.com/4co7sr
#
mathchat
12:32 am
delta_dc
:
What metacognition adds to prescribed curriculum is opportunity to move from giving an answer to showing work to sharing thinking. #
mathchat
12:33 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathfour
: @
grammygraham
http://bit.ly/gJAG2u
 that's me. #
mathchat
<== like this! Have been using Spirit of Math and Singapore Mental
12:33 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
mathheadinc
not in mine either.....there are some who really push for the paperless classroom and I've been called a "Luddite" #
mathchat
12:33 am
EmergentMath
:
Can a great teacher make even teaching to test engaging? I say yes. #
mathchat
12:33 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathfour
: @
giaimojosephine
Exactly. I learned "Computer Math" on the Apple IIe #
mathchat
oh now, now you are dating yourself...eek!
12:34 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
delta_dc
So, look for opportunities to deepen understanding or engage in discussion of context, instead of moving on too quickly? #
mathchat
12:34 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathfour
I'm in PA and our state tests require kids to show work on the open ended question. #
mathchat
12:34 am
mathheadinc
:
@
earlsamuelson
Many students don't like technology but so many in ed and tech push it. #
mathchat
12:34 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
Oh My Goodness. You are SO CUTE! #
mathchat
12:34 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
@
giaimojosephine
ummmm I think I did too!
12:34 am
grammygraham
:
@
EmergentMath
I agree #
mathchat
12:34 am
padgets
:
@
mathfour
#
mathchat
AHHHHH did I miss something?
12:35 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
EmergentMath
Yes, if the students are engaged on the taking of the test... there are ways of teaching content other than practice #
mathchat
12:35 am
mathheadinc
:
@
padgets
Make sure you get his worksheet book. It will change you life. #
mathchat
12:35 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
ColinTGraham
: @
giaimojosephine
Don's (@
TheMathman
) calculus map is a very good starting point:
http://bit.ly/cNGVoT
#
mathchat
way cool!
12:35 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
mathheadinc
those who push the most for it are not math teachers themselves #
mathchat
12:35 am
padgets
:
@
mathheadinc
#
mathchat
on my way to Amazon!!
12:35 am
BLicata
:
I Think the work and thought process is more important than the answer #
mathchat
12:35 am
mathheadinc
:
@
earlsamuelson
Yes and don't understand the struggles of many math students. #
mathchat
12:36 am
ColinTGraham
:
I'd hope not or bang goes my origami lesson! RT @
earlsamuelson
@
mathheadinc
Is a paperless classroom the wave of the future? #
mathchat
12:36 am
delta_dc
:
@
ColinTGraham
yes and offer choice. Learner choses problem that best allows him/her to demonstrate an NCTM Process Standard. #
mathchat
12:36 am
mathheadinc
:
@
padgets
No, no, better to get it on his site. www.mathman.biz :) #
mathchat
12:36 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
Dunno how many students breathe a sigh of relief when I outlaw calculators in my classes. #
mathchat
12:36 am
BLicata
:
I haven't met a student that didn't like technology #
mathchat
12:36 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathheadinc
@
earlsamuelson
I find they like technology when it engages them and is fun #
mathchat
ed tech sites need to be more "fun"
12:36 am
padgets
:
RT @
mathheadinc
: @
padgets
No, no, better to get it on his site. www.mathman.biz :) #
mathchat
<<<<gottcha!!
12:36 am
giaimojosephine
:
about NOT making kids show their work. #
mathchat
OK with me as long as they can explain their thinking at each step...confirm comprehension.
12:37 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
That's very interesting. #
mathchat
12:37 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
mathheadinc
I agree completely!!! #
mathchat
#
pwsd
12:37 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
BLicata
What happens with teachers who are more comfortable teaching with textbooks or curricula as props? #
mathchat
12:38 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
Here's "fixin' to" explained by me:
http://www.idearella.com/2011/a
texasismexplainedfixinto #
mathchat
12:38 am
mathheadinc
:
@
grammygraham
I use tech when they understand the foundation and they are ready to verify their understanding. #
mathchat
12:38 am
EmergentMath
:
.@
ColinTGraham
Let me refine question: Can a great teacher make even testpractice engaging? Again, I say yes. #
mathchat
12:38 am
grammygraham
:
@
BLicata
They like technology but they seem to resist learning from a computer #
mathchat
12:38 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
I never did understand things from a book unless it was for food
12:38 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
BLicata
I couldn't agree more #
mathchat
12:38 am
MmeVeilleux
:
RT @
delta_dc
: What metacognition adds to prescribed curriculum is opportunity to move from giving an answer to showing work to sharing thinking. #
mathchat
12:39 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Funny thing, too, the schools required graphing calcs but they make many kids nervous. #
mathchat
12:39 am
mackrellr
:
#
mathchat
can number sense still be taught with student access to caclulators?
12:39 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
giaimojosephine
Kids 'showing work' is more about displaying either memorization of process or thinking...not the best way to do #
mathchat
12:39 am
mathheadinc
:
LOL! RT @
padgets
: #
mathchat
I never did understand things from a book unless it was for food
12:39 am
EmergentMath
:
Consider making testprep engaging as a challenge? To be conquered and destroyed? #
mathchat
12:40 am
BLicata
:
Textbooks are 85% questions, 10% glossary, 5% instruction #
Mathchat
teachers need to be able to develop their own
12:40 am
giaimojosephine
:
Many students don't like technology but so many in ed and tech push it. #
mathchat
...because they don't know what they don't know...lol...
12:40 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mackrellr
If they have to use the calculators to convert to binary, yes... 9yos can handle this... #
mathchat
12:41 am
BLicata
:
?@
grammygraham
: @
BLicata
They like technology but they seem to resist learning from a computer #
mathchat
? but is the learning fun?
12:41 am
delta_dc
:
@
mackrellr
again, with choice I think so. Ask learners to pick 5 problems to do by hand, 5 using a calculator, 5 by estimation #
mathchat
12:41 am
giaimojosephine
:
there are ways of teaching content other than practice #
mathchat
..practice comes after teaching content, not during or before..no?
12:41 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
2make tests meaningful, have Ss work out incorrect answers and explain where thinking went wrong  partial marks?
12:41 am
sbeducator
:
Late but I teach 6th & 8th sped resource math RT @
mathfour
: Who teaches what grades (or subjects)? That might be a good start. #
mathchat
12:42 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
earlsamuelson
: @
mathheadinc
those who push the most for it are not math teachers themselves #
mathchat
...funny how that is, eh?
12:42 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
BLicata
There was a MathFuture webinar about escaping from the textbook yesterday... point is many treat text as a straightjacket #
Mathchat
12:42 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
well my friends need to take care of dinner, take care thanks for putting up with me tweet you all next time :0)
12:42 am
delta_dc
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
giaimojosephine
I want them to make their thinking visible. But it doesn't have to be every problemlet them chose #
mathchat
12:42 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
delta_dc
I agree with a healthy mix #
mathchat
12:42 am
mathheadinc
:
Have kids come up with more than one way to do something, then teach it to the class. #
mathchat
12:43 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
If you force them to explain you may destroy the natural ability within! #
mathchat
12:43 am
ColinTGraham
:
Only if it doesn't extend to placeholder... RT @
mackrellr
: @
ColinTGraham
but isn't that just memorizing an algorithm? #
Mathchat
12:43 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
Don't get us started! #
mathchat
12:43 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
delta_dc
I like your idea for showing work for some of the questions. This option gives choice.
12:44 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
delta_dc
And you can challenge students that they might be asked to display thinking 'at random' on any problem too... #
mathchat
12:44 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
When our kids explain things to others ,they end up with the highest grades in the class. #
mathchat
12:44 am
delta_dc
:
@
earlsamuelson
and allows them to build capacity for deciding for themselves when it makes sense to use a calculator. #
mathchat
12:44 am
BLicata
:
Math is about creativity, infinite possibilities #
mathchat
well not always
12:44 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
ColinTGraham
Yes, the textbook â‰ the curriculum.
12:44 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
Okay  here's a discussion on giving kids calculators:
http://goo.gl/67y4c
#
mathchat
12:45 am
peterflom
:
@
mathheadinc
I would have gotten straight A's in that scheme! #
mathchat
12:45 am
mathfour
:
@
mackrellr
The UIL competition Number Sense? #
mathchat
12:45 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
MmeVeilleux
Identifying error is another thing, and could also include peercorrection activities too #
mathchat
12:45 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
delta_dc
yes.....when it makes sense #
mathchat
12:45 am
mathheadinc
:
@
peterflom
Scheme? #
mathchat
12:45 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
Yes, coop lrng is math is powerful. Ss tchg teach other. @
mathheadinc
@
mathfour
12:45 am
mackrellr
:
#
mathchat
I think fact fluency can b maintained w calcs by brief metacognitive summary. Y does ur answer make sense?
12:45 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
I snatch them when kids try to do "4x6"! #
mathchat
12:45 am
mathfour
:
Totally agree RT @
ColinTGraham
showing work is more about displaying either memorization of process or thinking...not best way #
mathchat
12:45 am
BLicata
:
RT @
mathheadinc
: @
mathfour
When our kids explain things to others ,they end up with the highest grades in the class. #
mathchat
12:46 am
delta_dc
:
@
ColinTGraham
random, eh? That statistician hat? :) #
mathchat
12:46 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
sbeducator
Hi, thanks for joining us, lots of new people today! #
mathchat
12:46 am
mathheadinc
:
@
MmeVeilleux
It's the final leap to higher grades. We can only do so much. #
mathchat
12:46 am
mathfour
:
@
BLicata
Need to dev their own what? Instruction or questions? #
mathchat
12:46 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
ColinTGraham
What I struggle with in peer correction is an overuse where peer feedback may not be the best.
12:46 am
grammygraham
:
@
mathheadinc
@
mathfour
I agree...when they can teach it, they know it! #
mathchat
12:46 am
mathheadinc
:
YES! RT @
grammygraham
: @
mathheadinc
@
mathfour
I agree...when they can teach it, they know it! #
mathchat
12:46 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
ColinTGraham
Related: How can we increase the quality of peer feedback in mathematics?
12:47 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
peterflom
Hi Peter! Long time, no see! #
mathchat
12:47 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
sometimes, but not required. Sometimes solving the problem is part of the fun  figuring it out on your own. #
mathchat
12:47 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
BLicata
I agree.....explaining to others forces a deeper awareness of the concept #
mathchat
12:47 am
mathheadinc
:
If schools want better math scores (not that I care about SCHOOLS' scores ;P), they need to teach kids to teach each other. #
mathchat
12:48 am
mackrellr
:
@
grammygraham
#
mathchat
funny,I used that error analysis doc I shared w u earlier this year. I refined it a bit if u want an update
12:48 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
I merely use the problems from the text. I ignore the instruction (except the gray boxes  those can help) #
mathchat
12:48 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mackrellr
That is a creative use of calculators. Too many teachers get 'tramlined' by perceptions of what calcs are for, though. #
mathchat
12:48 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
So when Ss' teach other, does 1 tch whole class or do U do it in pairs? how do U scaffold this?
12:48 am
peterflom
:
@
mathfour
How would I "show my work" when there wasn't any? Often, I just KNEW the answer #
mathchat
12:48 am
mathfour
:
You're like my twin sister! RT @
mathheadinc
: If schools want better math scores they need to teach kids to teach each other. #
mathchat
12:49 am
BLicata
:
?@
mathfour
: @
BLicata
Need to dev their own what? Instruction or questions? #
mathchat
? everything, develop engaging content
12:49 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
giaimojosephine
it's the absolute truth! #
mathchat
12:49 am
peterflom
:
@
colintgraham
My stream gets so swamped! What days/times is #
MathChat
?
12:49 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
peterflom
That's a very rare situation, though, Peter! I suspect many of us here may be the same, but our students aren't! #
mathchat
12:49 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
I like a lot of the games suggestion by the Math Makes Sense textbook series (Cda).
12:49 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
That's how I was. couldn't do 8x7 after a while. It was bad. Then I did rehab. Now, no calculators! #
mathchat
12:50 am
grammygraham
:
@
mackrellr
yes please! #
mathchat
12:50 am
sbeducator
:
@
mathheadinc
agreed! We need more kids helping each other. That's why I love the mathtrain.tv site. #
mathchat
12:50 am
peterflom
:
I am helping my 8 year old learn about fractions. He learns visual in school, I teach numeric #
MathChat
12:50 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
peterflom
http://bit.ly/codZeQ
details on the Wiki. Monday moves to match local time in UK, Thur/Fri is fixed at 00:00 GMT Fri #
MathChat
12:50 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Super! Have a new Jr this week, in precalc & has trouble with fractions. OY! #
mathchat
12:51 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
padgets
: #
mathchat
I never did understand things from a book unless it was for food
12:51 am
mathfour
:
@
BLicata
Nah. I use their problems. Those work well. When I use "bon problems" I get FREAKY answers. #
mathchat
12:51 am
peterflom
:
@
colintgraham
Well, I don't have students, so I wouldn't know :) #
MathChat
12:52 am
giaimojosephine
:
the schools required graphing calcs but they make many kids nervous. #
mathchat
...easy to understand why that is, no? Complexity...
12:52 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
MmeVeilleux
I'd actually like to see two or three year groups brought together, so higher levels work with lower, older/younger #
mathchat
12:52 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
I hate to keep giving links to you, but they are applicable. Here's some fraction stuff:
http://goo.gl/GDWUK
#
mathchat
12:52 am
MmeVeilleux
:
RT @
sbeducator
: @
mathheadinc
agreed! We need more kids helping each other. That's why I love the mathtrain.tv site. #
mathchat
12:53 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
Perceived complexity, absolutely. It's always simpler than they think, though. #
mathchat
12:53 am
ColinTGraham
:
Right, let's just summarize before the last 5 minutes.... #
Mathchat
12:53 am
sbeducator
:
@
ColinTGraham
thanks for the welcome! #
mathchat
12:53 am
mathfour
:
EXACTLY! RT @
peterflom
: How would I "show my work" when there wasnt any? Often, I just KNEW the answer #
mathchat
12:54 am
mackrellr
:
#
mathchat
RAFT type problems are a fun/active ways to require students to "show their work". Haven't tried 1 yet butI hear good things.
12:54 am
ColinTGraham
:
Text is not the curriculum, there needs to be increased level of talking about thinking, multiple approaches to same topic... #
Mathchat
12:54 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
giaimojosephine
graphing calculators are great once the concepts are understoodthey shouldn't be used in lieu of understanding #
mathchat
12:54 am
sbeducator
:
Good point! RT @
mathfour
: EXACTLY! RT @
peterflom
: How would I "show my work" when there wasn't any? Often, I just KNEW the answer #
mathchat
12:54 am
mathheadinc
:
Someone tweeted about two kids working one side of an equation each and they had to agree. Great plan. #
mathchat
12:55 am
mathfour
:
@
giaimojosephine
Pushing a button in the upper right corner is the same as pushing it in the 2nd row. No added value! #
mathchat
12:55 am
ColinTGraham
:
Technology needs to be used creatively/imaginatively.... any more points in the last 5 minutes? #
Mathchat
12:55 am
giaimojosephine
:
many treat text as a straightjacket #
Mathchat
...how much math are your elem ed teachers required to have? In my state, 0 credits. Zilch.
12:55 am
mathheadinc
:
@
peterflom
Ramanujan "just knew" G. H. Hardy and Joh Littlewood help him show his work. #
mathchat
12:55 am
giaimojosephine
:
RT @
mathheadinc
: Have kids come up with more than one way to do something, then teach it to the class. #
mathchat
<== I like this!
12:55 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
mathheadinc
I like that idea #
mathchat
12:56 am
mathfour
:
@
EarlSamuelson
Graphing calculators are good when they are ENGINEERS! They don't need them otherwise. EVER! #
mathchat
12:56 am
grammygraham
:
@
mackrellr
We will have to discuss this tomorrow...the only RAFT I know of is a DI strategy #
mathchat
12:56 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
Nowhere NEAR enough math in a math ed degree in the U.S. #
Mathchat
12:56 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
giaimojosephine
Oh, I'm not going there Josephine, already had a rant and rave about the situation in England on Tuesday ;) #
Mathchat
12:56 am
mathheadinc
:
@
earlsamuelson
I think it may have been @
davidwees
. #
mathchat
12:56 am
mackrellr
:
#
mathchat
I often think that it's not really the theorem or axiom that is important, but how these tools are used.
12:57 am
giaimojosephine
:
Check out www.arthematics.com for integrated projects in math and art written by a colleague...and enjoy! #
mathchat
12:57 am
mathheadinc
:
@
giaimojosephine
The first part is @
TheMathman
's :) #
mathchat
12:57 am
mathfour
:
Indeed! RT @
mathheadinc
: @
giaimojosephine
Nowhere NEAR enough math in a math ed degree in the U.S. #
mathchat
12:57 am
MrT_Ro
:
Sorry I caught this discussion a little late. The standard algorithm is not always the most efficient strategy. #
mathchat
12:58 am
ColinTGraham
:
For me, the main challenge is to get students thinking about the concept and how it applies to contexts outside the curriculum... #
Mathchat
12:58 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
@
giaimojosephine
I taught math to math ed majors and was horrified at the little they needed. #
mathchat
12:58 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
I've tutored them. SCARY! One was my cousin! #
mathchat
12:58 am
sbeducator
:
@
mathheadinc
agreed...esp w/the level of rigor that's required in the Common Core Standards... #
mathchat
12:59 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
MrT_Ro
Hi, thanks for joining, we're just finishing off (?) discussing teaching to a specific, prescribed curric... or should be! #
mathchat
12:59 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
mathfour
you're preaching to the choir here! We've had them shoved down our throats so have made the best of them #
mathchat
1:00 am
stefras
:
RT @
mathheadinc
: Have kids come up with more than one way to do something, then teach it to the class. #
mathchat
1:00 am
mathfour
:
@
EarlSamuelson
Y'all are better than I  I flat refuse to use them. Probably why I don't teach anymore. #
mathchat
1:00 am
BLicata
:
RT @
mackrellr
: #
mathchat
RAFT type problems are a fun/active ways to require students to "show their work". Haven't tried 1 yet butI hear good things.
1:00 am
mackrellr
:
@
grammygraham
#
mathchat
Role/Audience/Format/Topic (RAFT) ur right it is a di strategy.
1:00 am
ColinTGraham
:
Well, it's that time again everyone! Great to see some new people here today. Follow @
mathchat
to keep updated. #
Mathchat
1:00 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
We were mostly on topic. Really. #
mathchat
1:00 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
Can I plug my thing later tonight? #
mathchat
1:01 am
ColinTGraham
:
Monday's chat may be an hour earlier for some of you, it will be moving to 19:30 GMT since we go to BST on Sunday #
Mathchat
1:01 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
mathfour
I'm not independently wealthy.......yet. I must therefore do as I'm told #
mathchat
1:01 am
BLicata
:
#
Mathchat
...how much math are your elem ed teachers required to have? In my state, 0 credits. Zilch.? same here
1:01 am
BLicata
:
RT @
giaimojosephine
: RT @
mathheadinc
: Have kids come up with more than one way to do something, then teach it to the class. #
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<== I like this!
1:01 am
mathfour
:
#
HSMath
(homeschool math) in one hour at 9pm CST.
http://ht.ly/4lrVf
topic: Teach real world math and keep needed formulas #
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1:02 am
ColinTGraham
:
The archive will go online in about 20 minutes or so, and Bon has just plugged her homeschool thing... #
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1:02 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
I can think of some fun things to do with graphing calcs that aren't in the book :D #
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1:02 am
mathfour
:
@
EarlSamuelson
I'm with you. *sigh* #
mathchat
1:02 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
BOOBLESS? #
mathchat
1:03 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
Thanks :D #
mathchat
1:03 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Uhhh, you lost me. #
mathchat
1:03 am
giaimojosephine
:
Thanks everyone, I had a great time, and enjoyed meeting you all. Grateful for the suggestions and conversation, you R terrific! #
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1:03 am
ColinTGraham
:
Ok, I am out of here, before things get more Texan... ;) #
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1:03 am
mathfour
:
55378008  jus'sayin' #
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1:04 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
HAHA, silly girl! #
mathchat
1:04 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
55378008 (how old are you? Old enough to have typed that in the calc and held it upside down?) #
mathchat
1:04 am
mathfour
:
@
ColinTGraham
We love ya, darlin'! #
mathchat
1:04 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Never learned THAT one. #
mathchat
1:05 am
teachdig
:
@
mathheadinc
The math they made me take was ridiculous considering my eng background. #
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1:05 am
EarlSamuelson
:
@
ColinTGraham
Thanks everyone! #
mathchat
1:05 am
mathfour
:
But really, y'all. If you want to help some homeschoolers out, or learn from them a little, join us in an hour. #
HSMath
#
mathchat
1:05 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
I am going to write a short post on how I use my number line w/my Ss & repost some math pencasts on #
mathchat
. Ciao all!!!
1:06 am
mathheadinc
:
@
teachdig
Ridiculous as in too much of not very useful? #
Mathchat
1:06 am
MmeVeilleux
:
See you all next week! #
mathchat
1:06 am
mathheadinc
:
@
MmeVeilleux
Or sooner! :D #
mathchat
1:06 am
mathfour
:
@
mathheadinc
And 71077345  that's another one #
mathchat
1:06 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
mathfour
It was Shell Oil when I was at school... #
mathchat
1:06 am
giaimojosephine
:
Old enough to have typed that in the calc and held it upside down?) #
mathchat
..that's a new one on me too!
1:07 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
MmeVeilleux
Au revoir, Ingrid #
mathchat
1:07 am
MrT_Ro
:
@
ColinTGraham
Thanks! I'm following @
mathchat
now. Hope to be a part of future discussions. #
mathchat
1:08 am
MmeVeilleux
:
#
mathchat
@
ColinTGraham
Ciao! and thx for moder8ing.
1:08 am
teachdig
:
@
mathheadinc
Exactly. My math ed classes taught me more useful stuff for teaching HS math than most math courses I had to take. #
Mathchat
1:08 am
giaimojosephine
:
#
mathchat
Thank you for your great facilitation, Colin! Appreciated!
1:09 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
MrT_Ro
We'll be revisiting today's topic on Monday... for those of you who didn't get enough today!
http://bit.ly/codZeQ
#
mathchat
1:09 am
teachdig
:
@
mathheadinc
Or things I already knew but there were not many options. #
Mathchat
1:13 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
giaimojosephine
Thanks for joining us Josephine, look forward to seeing you again #
mathchat
1:14 am
mathheadinc
:
@
mathfour
Oh yeah, THAT one I remember one :D #
mathchat
1:14 am
mathheadinc
:
@
teachdig
What state? #
Mathchat
1:14 am
mathheadinc
:
@
ColinTGraham
Good #
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