Topic (follow-up to Friday, 4th March 2011):
What books would you recommend for maths and/or teachers, why?
As it happened on Monday, 7th March 2011, 20:30 - 22:00 GMT
8:30 pm
ColinTGraham:
Hello, everyone. Welcome to today's #mathchat
8:31 pm
mattemagnus:
I recomend all maths teachers The Number Mysteries by @MarcusduSautoy It is full of the wonders of maths in a very teachable way #mathchat
8:31 pm
ColinTGraham:
Today's topic: "What books would you recommend for maths and/or teachers, why?" Don't forget the why! --- or the hashtag ---> #MathChat
8:32 pm
suburbanlion:
My #MathChat Recommended Reading List http://bit.ly/fXga4S
8:32 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mattemagnus Do you use it with students too Magnus? #mathchat
8:32 pm
mathfour:
@colintgraham I'm at home today (creating an iPhone app) so I can sort of watch #mathchat. It was great on Thursday!
8:33 pm
Sundayteatime:
RT @mathchat: #mathchat in 30 mins: "What books would you recommend for maths and/or teachers, why?" #ukedchat #edchat #scichat #elemchat #ntchat #gtchat
8:34 pm
mathfour:
How cool is this: RT @suburbanlion: My #MathChat Recommended Reading List http://bit.ly/fXga4S
8:34 pm
mattemagnus:
@ColinTGraham I do, and sometimes they hate it; as they say "it forces them to think" I love that. They are thinking about maths! #mathchat
8:35 pm
ColinTGraham:
@suburbanlion Glad to see you expanded on the 'why' in your list, Ryan! What would be the top choice from it? #MathChat
8:35 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mattemagnus Has it been translated into Swedish or are you working in English with it? #mathchat
8:36 pm
Sundayteatime:
The elephant in the classroom by Jo Boaler #mathchat
8:36 pm
suburbanlion:
@ColinTGraham I think my top choice would be GEB. Love the style & depth to it. #mathchat
8:36 pm
delta_dc:
One of our #ed331 TAs is reading "The Number Devil" to middle grade learners http://t.co/XXowkAI It introduces math ideas to them #mathchat
8:36 pm
mattemagnus:
@ColinTGraham It is in english. But I get ideas and exercises from it that I use in swedish. #mathchat
8:36 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Sundayteatime That was one of my choices too... partly because Jo was one of the tutors when I did my PGCE #mathchat
8:37 pm
Sundayteatime:
For fiction: The End of Mr Y by Scarlett Thomas #mathchat
8:37 pm
mramidon:
@ColinTGraham Book - Algebra Unplugged (Loats & Amdahl) seems 2 make sense 2 sum students, talks abt math in a totally diffrnt way #MathChat
8:38 pm
ColinTGraham:
@delta_dc Is it fact or, fact-in-fiction? Haven't heard of it, personally! #ed331 #mathchat
8:38 pm
mramidon:
RT @ColinTGraham: Today's topic: "What books would you recommend for maths and/or teachers, why?" Don't forget the why! --- or the hashtag ---> #MathChat
8:39 pm
Sundayteatime:
@mattemagnus @MarcusduSautoy I'm halfway through it. #mathchat
8:39 pm
delta_dc:
@ColinTGraham Fiction - a story of a boy having dreams about numbers - a mathematical adventure #mathchat
8:41 pm
ColinTGraham:
@delta_dc My favourite maths-related fiction was the one I mentioned last week: The curious incident of the dog in the night-time. #mathchat
8:42 pm
ColinTGraham:
@suburbanlion Wouldn't disagree with GEB, it's always my first recommendation... #mathchat
8:42 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Sundayteatime What do you like about "The End of Mr Y"? #mathchat
8:42 pm
delta_dc:
@ColinTGraham I liked that one, too. I used it in a class for preservice teachers focusing on probability, stats, & combinatorics #mathchat
8:43 pm
Sundayteatime:
@ColinTGraham Love curious incident. Should be on all PGCE reading lists #mathchat
8:44 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mattemagnus Are there any Swedish books/writers you'd recommend, Magnus? Does not have to be maths-related! #mathchat
8:45 pm
mattemagnus:
I have also used facts from Poincaré's Prize by George G. Szpiro for a lecture about modern geometry. Good book. #mathchat
8:45 pm
d_martin05:
If to get answer all you do is "use your calculators" then why give the question at all #mathchat#edreform #edchat
8:46 pm
ColinTGraham:
I asked this at the end of the previous chat, I'll start a little earlier today: What books have affected your teaching/approach? #MathChat
8:46 pm
mattemagnus:
@ColinTGraham Plenty. But they are all in Swedish... However An Introduction to Gröbner basis by Ralf Fröberg was inspireing #mathchat
8:47 pm
delta_dc:
Several books on literacy instruction have really impacted my teaching - Brian Cambourne's "The Whole Story" more than most #mathchat
8:47 pm
mattemagnus:
Ralf Fröberg is also a really good person who have inspired me much in teaching he is a great adviser! #mathchat
8:48 pm
Sundayteatime:
@ColinTGraham Getting the buggers to behave #mathchat
8:49 pm
mattemagnus:
Philosophy of mathematics (Benaceraff &Putnam eds) gave me my first introduction to both Gödel and intuitionism. #mathchat
8:50 pm
ColinTGraham:
I found "Crest of the Peacock" an eye-opener... given that I had a very 'classical' euro-centred education! #MathChat
8:51 pm
chris_1974:
#mathchat I love "The Man who Counted". Lovely gentle little mathematical jaunt.http://amzn.to/hFaNto
8:51 pm
mramidon:
RT @ColinTGraham: I asked this at the end of the previous chat, I'll start a little earlier today: What books have affected your teaching/approach? #MathChat
8:52 pm
ZeniaMc79:
@ColinTGraham perhaps a little bizarre, but Freakonomics. Loved the way it made me question my assumptions. Has stayed with me #mathchat
8:52 pm
mattemagnus:
Intuitionism makes the mathematician in me sick and teacher in me happy. So Mathematics as a cobstructive activity Watson&Mason #mathchat
8:52 pm
Janshs:
read it yrs ago, gr8 RT @ColinTGraham ColI found "Crest of the Peacock" an eye-opener... #MathChat
8:52 pm
ColinTGraham:
@delta_dc "Crest of the Peacock" [G G Joseph] is about the non-european roots of mathematics... Babylonian, Mayan etc. #MathChat
8:53 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @mramidon: @alfiekohn - Homework Myth. This Book challenged me to rethink everything I know about assigning homework. #MathChat
8:53 pm
neilstephenson:
Why Education Needs to Change: A Student Perspective http://bit.ly/dEcxtJ [video] #edchat #edtech#caned #sschat #mathchat #netleader #abed
8:55 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mattemagnus There are many debates about constructivism in mathematics teaching... not many understand constructivist approaches #mathchat
8:55 pm
ZeniaMc79:
@Sundayteatime have read PopCo by same. Not touched End of Mr Y. A bit code breaking/ maths historied out by end! Enjoyed tho' #mathchat
8:56 pm
Sundayteatime:
@ZeniaMc79 Loved that one too #mathchat
8:56 pm
ColinTGraham:
One main theme from "Peacock" was that historical approaches could successfully be used to build concepts/engagement #MathChat
8:57 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ZeniaMc79 Bits of Freakonomics are a little scary too, from my memories of it! #mathchat
8:58 pm
mattemagnus:
@ColinTGraham That is why that book is a great introduction. There are more philosophies described there though. #mathchat
8:58 pm
delta_dc:
@ColinTGraham sounds like the theory - ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny #mathchat
8:58 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mattemagnus How do you deal with students who are 'intuitive'? #mathchat
8:58 pm
mramidon:
@ColinTGraham Are the book titles being tweeted for the #MathChat being compiled anywhere? Wiki maybe? Just a thought/question.
8:59 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mramidon Yes, I'll be extracting a list from both last week's #MathChat on World Book Day and today's with links to publishers #MathChat
9:00 pm
ZeniaMc79:
@ColinTGraham Ah yes, but would I recommend it? Definitely. #mathchat
9:00 pm
mramidon:
RT @ColinTGraham: @mramidon Yes, I'll be extracting a list from both last week's #MathChat on World Book Day and today's with links to publishers #MathChat
9:01 pm
ColinTGraham:
@delta_dc In a way, but there is no harm in recapitulating similar ideas/concepts in differing or more complex contexts! #mathchat
9:02 pm
Sundayteatime:
I enjoyed The man who loved only numbers by Paul Hoffman when I read it at uni when I should have been writing my dissertation #mathchat
9:03 pm
Janshs:
#mathchat it was an ATM book on being a Head of Maths that helped me a lot
9:04 pm
ColinTGraham:
ATM = Association of Teachers of Mathematics, for non-UK tweeps... not a cash-point! #MathChat
9:05 pm
ColinTGraham:
If a student asked you to recommend 3 books to read, what would you suggest/why? [State the S's age too!] #MathChat
9:06 pm
mattemagnus:
@ColinTGraham I try to let them think of concepts themselves. I also let them discover patterns for themselves. #mathchat
9:06 pm
delta_dc:
@ColinTGraham didn't mean to come across as opposed 2 it. I agree it makes sense 4 children's thinking to mimic historic thinking #mathchat
9:06 pm
daveinstpaul:
If m is large then P(1+r/m)^(mt) ~= P(e^(r/m))^(mt) = Pe^((r/m)*mt) = Pe^(rt), because r/m is close to 0. #mathchat
9:07 pm
mattemagnus:
Sorry too tired to continue. Need my sleep. I'll read the transcript tomorrow. #mathchat
9:08 pm
delta_dc:
Elem - "Math Curse" what it really means to do mathematics. Secondary - "Curious Incident..." too many reasons to mention #MathChat (1/2)
9:09 pm
ColinTGraham:
Sov gott! @mattemagnus #mathchat
9:09 pm
delta_dc:
Preservice Teachers - "To Understand" by Ellin Keene since it introduces idea that learning should focus on sense making. #MathChat (2/2)
9:09 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @SallyRobin: @ColinTGraham Uncle Petros and Goldbach's conjecture by Apostolos Doxiadis #MathChat
9:11 pm
mathhombre:
"The Phantom Tollbooth" for content and process. #mathchat
9:11 pm
republicofmath:
Even less understand constructivist theory @ColinTGraham @mattemagnus constructivism in math teaching... not many understand #mathchat
9:11 pm
Sundayteatime:
Usborne puzzle books for younger students. Do they still do those? #mathchat
9:12 pm
ColinTGraham:
For boys, early (pre-)teens, I like the Alex Rider books by Anthony Horowitz... ;-) #MathChat
9:13 pm
Sundayteatime:
@mathhombre Ooh is that mathsy? I loved that as a child. Can't remember much about it. #mathchat
9:13 pm
republicofmath:
"Cyberclub" and "Number Devil" - middle school - grades 5-8 maybe. #mathchat
9:14 pm
ColinTGraham:
2nd that! "The Thirteen Clocks and the Wonderful 'O'" too... RT @mathhombre: "The Phantom Tollbooth" for content and process. #mathchat
9:16 pm
republicofmath:
"The Tiger That Isn't ..." year 10 + #mathchat
9:17 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Sundayteatime Doesn't have to be mathsy! Reason for recommendation should be clear for kids, though, to be effective. #mathchat
9:20 pm
delta_dc:
"The Giver" by Lois Lowry is another good book for middle grade learners. It has interesting themes and potential math problems. #mathchat
9:21 pm
ColinTGraham:
"Who is Fourier?" Originally written for EFL learners. I came across LEX books in Japan... not easy to find others in series. #MathChat
9:23 pm
ColinTGraham:
The LEX website (English) is here: http://bit.ly/hEhASu Their books were actually written by learners for learners. Good examples. #MathChat
9:24 pm
ColinTGraham:
What books have been recommended to you that you'd like to read? What will you choose first? #MathChat
9:27 pm
delta_dc:
@ColinTGraham one of our preservice teachers suggested Seth Godin's "Linchpin." I got it for this week - Spring Break #MathChat
9:31 pm
ColinTGraham:
I'm deciding whether to go for fiction or non-fiction at the moment... Heidegger's Philosophy of Science... or a murder-mystery! #MathChat
9:37 pm
ColinTGraham:
OK, it looks as though we are all 'chatted out' for tonight... thanks for your suggestions/recommendations everyone! #MathChat
9:38 pm
ColinTGraham:
Over the next few weeks, we will be trying discussions on specific teaching strategies or approaches #MathChat
9:39 pm
mramidon:
RT @ColinTGraham: Over the next few weeks, we will be trying discussions on specific teaching strategies or approaches #MathChat
9:41 pm
ColinTGraham:
Vote for your choice of the next topic: http://bit.ly/c9KL7s and if you want to add to the list:http://bit.ly/dGIKDW #MathChat
9:43 pm
ColinTGraham:
Next Monday, (American) Pi Day... I will be en-route from #TmBrum, so I'll be expecting you #mathchat tweeps to carry on without me!