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001 Differentiation
002 'Real' maths
003 Fractions
004 Manipulatives
005 Assessment
006 What technology?
007 Adult curriculum
008 Reflective Learners
009 Engagement
010 Class Time Use
011 Why I hate maths
012 Terminology
013 'Mathphobia'
014 The Nature of Maths
015 Show and Tell
016 Vertical Integration
017 Product to Process
018 Investigation Length
019 Preparation for Work
020 Success in Mathematics
021 Groupwork
022 Effective lessons
023 Impact of ICT
024 Mathematics Websites
028 Why under 16?
2010.07.15 Differentiation
2010.07.19 Differentiation (2)
2010.07.22 'Real' maths
2010.07.26 'Real' maths (2)
2010.07.29 Fractions
2010.08.02 Fractions (2)
2010.08.05 Manipulatives
2010.08.09 Manipulatives (2)
2010.08.12 Assessment
2010.08.16 Assessment (2)
2010.08.19 What tech?
2010.08.23 What tech? (2)
2010.08.26 Adult maths
2010.08.30 Adult maths (2)
2010.09.02 Reflective learner
2010.09.06 Reflective learner 2
2010.09.09 Engagement
2010.09.13 Engagement 2
2010.09.16 Class Time Use
2010.09.20 Class Time Use 2
2010.09.23 Why I hate maths
2010.09.27 Why I hate math 2
2010.09.30 Terminology
2010.10.04 Terminology 2
2010.10.07 'Mathphobia'
2010.10.11 'Mathphobia' (2)
2010.10.14 Nature of Maths
2010.10.18 Nature of Maths (2)
2010.10.21 Show and Tell
2010.10.25 Show and Tell (2)
2010.10.28 Vertical Integration
2010.11.01 Vertical Integratn 2
2010.11.04 Product to Process
2010.11.08 Product to Proc. 2
2010.11.11 Investigation length
2010.11.15 Investigation leng 2
2010.11.18 Prepn for work
2010.11.22 Prepn for work 2
2010.11.25 Success in Maths
2010.12.03 Groupwork
2010.12.06 Groupwork 2
2010.12.10 Effective lessons
2010.12.13 Effective Lesson 2
2010.12.17 Impact of ICT
2010.12.20 Impact of ICT 2
2010.12.24 Maths Websites
2011.01.03 Maths Website 2
2011.01.07 Ideal curriculum
2011.01.10 Ideal curriculum 2
2011.01.14 Short or longterm
2011.01.17 Short or longterm2
2011.01.21 Continuing PD
2011.01.24 Continuing PD 2
2011.01.28 Why under 16?
2011.01.31 Why under 16? (2)
2011.02.04 Which is more fun?
2011.02.11 Blended learning
2011.02.14 Blended learning 2
2011.02.18 Fast tracking
2011.02.21 Fast tracking (2)
2011.02.25 Misconceptions
2011.02.28 Misconceptions 2
2011.03.04 Good Reads
2011.03.07 Good Reads (2)
2011.03.11 How do I  fractions
2011.03.18 How do I  lang
2011.03.21 How do I  lang (2)
2011.03.25 How do I  curric
2011.03.28 How do I  curric 2
2011.04.01 How?  next topic
2011.04.04 How?  nxt topic 2
2011.04.08 How?  Geometry
2011.04.11 How?  Geom 2
2011.04.15 How?Investigation
2011.04.18 How?Investigatn 2
2011.04.22 How? Do vs. learn
2011.04.25 How?Do vs learn 2
2011.04.29 How?Dig deeper
2011.05.02 How?Dig deeper 2
2011.05.06 'Big Ideas'
2011.05.09 'Big Ideas' (2)
2011.05.13 High school skill
2011.05.16 High school skill 2
2011.05.20 Journals
2011.05.23 Journals (2)
2011.05.27 Studentdriven
2011.05.30 Studentdriven (2)
2011.06.03 How?  Maths play
2011.06.06 How?Maths play 2
2011.06.10 Deeper thinking
2011.06.13 Deeper thinking (2)
2011.06.17 How?  Disjointed
2011.06.17 How?  Disjointed 2
2011.06.24 How?  Problems
2011.06.27 How?  Problems 2
2011.07.01 Holiday maths
2011.10.28 Extent of plans
2011.10.31 Extent of plans (2)
2011.11.04 Authentic is..?
2011.11.07 Authentic is..? (2)
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2010.12.24 Maths Websites
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Topic:
What makes a good quality website for mathematics teaching and/or learning?
As it happened on
Friday, DATE 00:00  01:00 GMT
12:04 am
ColinTGraham
:
Hello everyone, any takers for #
mathchat
?
12:06 am
ColinTGraham
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Today's topic: "What makes a good quality website for mathematics teaching and/or learning?" #
mathchat
12:11 am
ColinTGraham
:
I guess everyone is otherwise occupied, so I'll give it another 10 minutes or so... #
mathchat
12:15 am
cybraryman1
:
@
ColinTGraham
I've got math sites Colin! #
mathchat
12:16 am
cybraryman1
:
RT @
ColinTGraham
: Today's topic: "What makes a good quality website for mathematics teaching and/or learning?" #
mathchat
NOW
12:16 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
cybraryman1
Thanks, Jerry, we can always count on you! I suspect most people are engaged with family stuff... #
mathchat
12:18 am
alexpickett
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RT @
cybraryman1
: RT @
ColinTGraham
: Today's topic: "What makes a good quality website for mathematics teaching and/or learning?" #
mathchat
NOW
12:20 am
ColinTGraham
:
OK #
mathchat
people, the fiveminute countdown is now on... ! ;)
12:22 am
cybraryman1
:
@
ColinTGraham
What math pages should I have? My Math pages:
http://bit.ly/dvup24
#
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12:23 am
padgets
:
RT @
cybraryman1
: @
ColinTGraham
What math pages should I have? My Math pages:
http://bit.ly/dvup24
#
mathchat
12:25 am
ColinTGraham
:
I see sites 'pushing' maths in some way but wonder about quality... if they are too closely tied to 'dodgy' curricula... #
mathchat
12:27 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
I saw one tweeted the other day that if a child put in the equation to be solved it did it for them
12:28 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
I don't see a problem with that if the child knows what the equation is for and how it should be used #
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12:29 am
tperran
:
Hi everyone, here are some sites I've collected. I try to find those that are engaging and less wellknown:
http://bit.ly/g0GK3A
#
mathchat
12:30 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
that is what I was concerned about, just getting the answer without knowing the process
12:30 am
ColinTGraham
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@
tperran
Hi Tom, the question here is what makes the sites good sites... I'm sure we all have collections of some sort or another #
mathchat
12:31 am
padgets
:
@
tperran
#
mathchat
thanks I will add them to my diigo, moved from delicious due to possible shutdown
12:32 am
ColinTGraham
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@
tperran
So, engagement and less wellknown are two factors in your listing... what other sites cause/create attention for people? #
mathchat
12:35 am
ColinTGraham
:
Universe Sandbox
http://ow.ly/3sg8D
which I saw via @
kjarrett
's tweet presents possibilities, but not specifically mathematics... #
mathchat
12:37 am
tperran
:
@
ColinTGraham
Here are more criteria: minimum of supervision needed, multiple levels of challenge, realworld application...#
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12:37 am
ColinTGraham
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@
padgets
Do you see websites that provide "the answer" as the problem, Sharon, or do teachers need to adapt methods to suit? #
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12:39 am
cybraryman1
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I personally like websites that show you the step by step process on how to solve a problem if you get it wrong #
mathchat
12:39 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
concern that if a child can get the answer without knowing how the answer was gotten. seems like cheating to me
12:39 am
ColinTGraham
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@
tperran
I can see how most of that would work, Tom, but "minimum of supervision" sounds interesting... How would that work? #
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12:40 am
cybraryman1
:
@
tperran
Thanks for sharing those sites Tom. You know me The Collector of Sites! #
mathchat
12:40 am
ColinTGraham
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@
cybraryman1
Explanation of steps is not enough... is that what you're saying? It needs to be common errors and why they happen? #
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12:41 am
dweksler
:
Internetsavvy friend paid $60 for his son taking calculus to have access to stepbystep problemsolving
http://bit.ly/7iLsO
#
mathchat
12:41 am
cybraryman1
:
@
ColinTGraham
That would be helpful when you can see the common errors and see why they happen #
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12:41 am
padgets
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#
mathchat
I like my websites to be my partner in teaching, a tool for me to use to show the process, not to take my place
12:41 am
tperran
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@
cybraryman1
I probably got some of them from you! #
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12:42 am
ColinTGraham
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@
padgets
We didn't have the computing power available as Ss, so we had to "go through the slog"... maybe we have to refocus #
mathchat
12:43 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
dweksler
If it is focused/personalised help then why not... but the question is why pay...? #
mathchat
12:44 am
ColinTGraham
:
RT @
tperran
I like sites where you can explain the goal to the Ss &, if they get sidetracked, they can figure it out on their own. #
mathchat
12:44 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
I think a little struggle is ok :) sense of accomplishment felt when they find the answer or finish the project
12:45 am
dweksler
:
@
ColinTGraham
As a father who no longer can help with the math homework, he thought it was worth it for his son sudying calculus #
mathchat
12:45 am
tperran
:
Some sites like mathopenref.com offer a bit too much help but they have their place too. We use them to introduce skills #
mathchat
12:46 am
tperran
:
RT @
padgets
: #
mathchat
I think a little struggle is ok :)sense of accomplishment felt when they find the answer or finish the project>Yes!
12:46 am
cybraryman1
:
RT @
padgets
: #
mathchat
I think a little struggle is ok :) sense of accomplishment felt when they find the answer or finish the project
12:46 am
ColinTGraham
:
My view is that anything which helps with the "Aha!" is valuable. Last week's discussion suggested immediate feedback was useful #
mathchat
12:47 am
tperran
:
@
jlyon300
Glad you liked them. I've been working on the list for awhile. Could be organized better though, I think. #
mathchat
12:47 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
I tried these last weeks to just put a learning target on the board, provide ways to reach it, kids decided how
12:48 am
ColinTGraham
:
I worry that because a lot of things can be done more easily online that some skills are being lost... measurement, 3D models... #
mathchat
12:49 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
with them deciding the avenue of learning, me guiding, less stress, them more engaged because they decided how they would learn
12:49 am
cybraryman1
:
@
ColinTGraham
So how did you feel when students started using calculators in class? #
mathchat
12:49 am
tperran
:
RT @
padgets
: #
mathchat
I tried to just put a learning target on the board, provide ways to reach it, kids decided how>How did it go?
12:49 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
dweksler
If the online provision is providing what a teacher can, there is not really an issue, as I see it... #
mathchat
12:50 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
well, not so good yet :) kids in 9th grade have not had that gradual release of responsibility, so I found I must teach them this
12:50 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
cybraryman1
My feeling was that the curriculum did not allow Ss to use calculators to their fullest potential. #
mathchat
12:50 am
dweksler
:
@
ColinTGraham
Taking advantage of the teacher as a resource was a suggestion I offered, as well. #
mathchat
12:50 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
but enough went well, I think I will try again second semester
12:51 am
tperran
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@
padgets
Same could be said for many 1oth graders too :) #
mathchat
12:51 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
for my sped and ELL kids, it went the best, differentiation at its best :)
12:51 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
Reasoned approaches to problemsolving are the basis of Science and Mathematics, which is why I like Project Euler... #
mathchat
12:52 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
please tell me, what is Project Euler? I have not heard of it before :)
12:53 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
Steve @
frogphilp
let his students, 711yo decide what maths questions they wanted to answer... it seemed to go OK! #
mathchat
12:54 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
Project Euler is on the Wiki. It's increasingly difficult problems that require maths/programming skills to solve #
mathchat
12:54 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
must check out the wiki more closely!!!!
12:55 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
http://bit.ly/dRJpTP
the main resources page is a good start! Project Euler is near the bottom... #
mathchat
12:55 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
thanks :)
12:57 am
ColinTGraham
:
So, summarising, good websites will: give immediate, personalized feedback; explain why some answers are wrong; provide problems #
mathchat
12:57 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
is it good in your all's opinion if a child takes math exclusively online k12?
12:58 am
ColinTGraham
:
Other plus points: engaging, immediacy, selfmonitored,... anything else to add? #
mathchat
12:59 am
dweksler
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I'd like to think the math/tech tools have improved math learning/teaching, but I'm not always convinced that's the case. #
mathchat
12:59 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
If the curriculum is geared towards machinemarkable standards, then doing it all online will probably be the way... :( #
mathchat
1:00 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
dweksler
What would make them better, or where do your doubts lie David? #
mathchat
1:00 am
tperran
:
@
ColinTGraham
Did we say anything about ability to collaborate w/ others and communicate understanding in a variety of formats? #
mathchat
1:00 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
thank you :)
1:01 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
tperran
Not until now, Tom! Collaborative research online is certainly upandcoming ... Poincare conjecture springs to mind... #
mathchat
1:02 am
ColinTGraham
:
For the last 10 minutes or so, what would you like to see happening more in online mathematics sites? What sites exemplify this? #
mathchat
1:02 am
dweksler
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I'd like to believe that dynamic geometry software/math web sites support math education, but in the US we continue to struggle #
mathchat
1:03 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
dweksler
So that would be sites like GeoGebra, David? #
mathchat
1:04 am
ColinTGraham
:
I would like to see sites which are more imaginative and proactive in encouraging mathematical thinking #
mathchat
1:04 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
Love GeoGebra!!!
1:04 am
dweksler
:
Collaboration between the online math community and classroom teachers who may need support #
mathchat
1:05 am
ColinTGraham
:
I'd also like to see nonmathematics sites used more imaginatively in teaching maths, particularly for 11+ #
mathchat
1:05 am
padgets
:
RT @
dweksler
: Collaboration between the online math community and classroom teachers who may need support #
mathchat
<<<Agree!
1:05 am
dweksler
:
@
ColinTGraham
Certainly, Colin. I was around the development of Sketchpad and part of the group that built the Geometry/Math Forum #
mathchat
1:06 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
I thought you'd agree with that Sharon! Sheltered workshops allowing 'safe' CPD for struggling colleagues, yes! #
mathchat
1:06 am
cybraryman1
:
RT @
ColinTGraham
: Good websites will: give immediate, personalized feedback; explain why some answers are wrong; provide problems #
mathchat
1:06 am
padgets
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
you know me well,,:)
1:08 am
ColinTGraham
:
Maybe not enough is provided, or being provided, for targeted development for teachers and most of the Ss are ok for now...? #
mathchat
1:11 am
cybraryman1
:
@
padgets
I feel the future is Blended Learning. Child needs face to face time too. #
mathchat
1:11 am
tperran
:
I like to see math sites provide realworld apps w/ multiple levels of challenge. Here is one of my favs:
http://bit.ly/7OYJ0u
#
mathchat
1:12 am
padgets
:
RT @
cybraryman1
: I feel the future is Blended Learning. Child needs face to face time too. #
mathchat
< me too, just think I will be needed
1:13 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
as least I hope so :)
1:13 am
ColinTGraham
:
My three presents: GeoGebra
http://bit.ly/abJKX
LEGO digital designer
http://bit.ly/4wGVWB
Project Euler
http://bit.ly/122rwL
#
mathchat
1:14 am
cybraryman1
:
@
tperran
Thanks for "nriching" my math sites collection #
mathchat
1:14 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
well my friends, family is calling, LOL to you all have a great holiday! thanks Colin for the presents, will share with my team
1:15 am
padgets
:
#
mathchat
take care and tweet you all soon :)
1:15 am
ColinTGraham
:
Merry Christmas to everyone who has participated in #
mathchat
this year. See you next year everyone!
1:16 am
tperran
:
#
mathchat
Same here! I hope you all have a wonderful holiday and enjoy the rest of your break!
1:16 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
padgets
Same to you Sharon, enjoy the break :) #
mathchat
1:16 am
cybraryman1
:
@
ColinTGraham
Happy Holidays Colin. Cheers #
mathchat
1:17 am
ColinTGraham
:
The next #
mathchat
discussion will be revisiting today's topic on 3rd January... today's archive will be online in 20 minutes or so ;)
1:19 am
ColinTGraham
:
@
cybraryman1
Thanks for participating, Jerry. Happy holidays to you too! #
mathchat
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