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001 Differentiation
002 'Real' maths
003 Fractions
004 Manipulatives
005 Assessment
006 What technology?
007 Adult curriculum
008 Reflective Learners
009 Engagement
010 Class Time Use
011 Why I hate maths
012 Terminology
013 'Mathphobia'
014 The Nature of Maths
015 Show and Tell
016 Vertical Integration
017 Product to Process
018 Investigation Length
019 Preparation for Work
020 Success in Mathematics
021 Groupwork
022 Effective lessons
023 Impact of ICT
024 Mathematics Websites
028 Why under 16?
2010.07.15 Differentiation
2010.07.19 Differentiation (2)
2010.07.22 'Real' maths
2010.07.26 'Real' maths (2)
2010.07.29 Fractions
2010.08.02 Fractions (2)
2010.08.05 Manipulatives
2010.08.09 Manipulatives (2)
2010.08.12 Assessment
2010.08.16 Assessment (2)
2010.08.19 What tech?
2010.08.23 What tech? (2)
2010.08.26 Adult maths
2010.08.30 Adult maths (2)
2010.09.02 Reflective learner
2010.09.06 Reflective learner 2
2010.09.09 Engagement
2010.09.13 Engagement 2
2010.09.16 Class Time Use
2010.09.20 Class Time Use 2
2010.09.23 Why I hate maths
2010.09.27 Why I hate math 2
2010.09.30 Terminology
2010.10.04 Terminology 2
2010.10.07 'Mathphobia'
2010.10.11 'Mathphobia' (2)
2010.10.14 Nature of Maths
2010.10.18 Nature of Maths (2)
2010.10.21 Show and Tell
2010.10.25 Show and Tell (2)
2010.10.28 Vertical Integration
2010.11.01 Vertical Integratn 2
2010.11.04 Product to Process
2010.11.08 Product to Proc. 2
2010.11.11 Investigation length
2010.11.15 Investigation leng 2
2010.11.18 Prepn for work
2010.11.22 Prepn for work 2
2010.11.25 Success in Maths
2010.12.03 Groupwork
2010.12.06 Groupwork 2
2010.12.10 Effective lessons
2010.12.13 Effective Lesson 2
2010.12.17 Impact of ICT
2010.12.20 Impact of ICT 2
2010.12.24 Maths Websites
2011.01.03 Maths Website 2
2011.01.07 Ideal curriculum
2011.01.10 Ideal curriculum 2
2011.01.14 Short or longterm
2011.01.17 Short or longterm2
2011.01.21 Continuing PD
2011.01.24 Continuing PD 2
2011.01.28 Why under 16?
2011.01.31 Why under 16? (2)
2011.02.04 Which is more fun?
2011.02.11 Blended learning
2011.02.14 Blended learning 2
2011.02.18 Fast tracking
2011.02.21 Fast tracking (2)
2011.02.25 Misconceptions
2011.02.28 Misconceptions 2
2011.03.04 Good Reads
2011.03.07 Good Reads (2)
2011.03.11 How do I  fractions
2011.03.18 How do I  lang
2011.03.21 How do I  lang (2)
2011.03.25 How do I  curric
2011.03.28 How do I  curric 2
2011.04.01 How?  next topic
2011.04.04 How?  nxt topic 2
2011.04.08 How?  Geometry
2011.04.11 How?  Geom 2
2011.04.15 How?Investigation
2011.04.18 How?Investigatn 2
2011.04.22 How? Do vs. learn
2011.04.25 How?Do vs learn 2
2011.04.29 How?Dig deeper
2011.05.02 How?Dig deeper 2
2011.05.06 'Big Ideas'
2011.05.09 'Big Ideas' (2)
2011.05.13 High school skill
2011.05.16 High school skill 2
2011.05.20 Journals
2011.05.23 Journals (2)
2011.05.27 Studentdriven
2011.05.30 Studentdriven (2)
2011.06.03 How?  Maths play
2011.06.06 How?Maths play 2
2011.06.10 Deeper thinking
2011.06.13 Deeper thinking (2)
2011.06.17 How?  Disjointed
2011.06.17 How?  Disjointed 2
2011.06.24 How?  Problems
2011.06.27 How?  Problems 2
2011.07.01 Holiday maths
2011.10.28 Extent of plans
2011.10.31 Extent of plans (2)
2011.11.04 Authentic is..?
2011.11.07 Authentic is..? (2)
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Topic (followup to Thursday, 21st October 2010):
A show and tell of successful lessons, ideas and useful resources!
As it happened on
Monday, 25th October 2010, 19:30  21:00 GMT
7:33 pm
ColinTGraham
:
Hello everyone and welcome to today's #
mathchat
7:34 pm
ColinTGraham
:
If it's your first time, don't try to follow everything, but focus on one or two people and interact with them instead #
mathchat
7:35 pm
ColinTGraham
:
Don't forget to use the hashtag > #
mathchat
7:37 pm
ColinTGraham
:
Tonight it is a show and tell of successful lessons, ideas and useful resources. Any links will be put in the archive later. #
mathchat
7:39 pm
ColinTGraham
:
So who want's to kick us off? #
mathchat
7:40 pm
HPTeachExchange
:
Engaging New Resources for the K12 Math, Science Teachers: Exploring Computational Thinking
http://ow.ly/2Z8oD
#
mathchat
#
scichat
7:45 pm
maxmathforum
:
What are people hoping for? #
mathchat
7:46 pm
ColinTGraham
:
Noone wants to share lessons or ideas or resources that worked or were successful? #
mathchat
7:48 pm
Caro_lann
:
#
mathchat
Imagination: stus close eyes. Tchr describes forming a solid e.g pyramid from ball of clay & cutting thru it. Stus draw cut face
7:49 pm
dweksler
:
Attended conference this past weekend on teaching math with social justice themes . Workshop descriptions:
http://bit.ly/c8cZ5b
#
mathchat
7:49 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
Sorry Colin, I do, but in the middle of class. Give me a few minutes. I have LOTS of ideas. #
mathchat
7:49 pm
Cassyt
:
@
ColinTGraham
Well, they're hard to sum up succinctly. #
mathchat
7:51 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Cassyt
Go for an intro and let people ask questions then! #
mathchat
7:51 pm
davidwees
:
Here's a collection of different ideas I used in math class:
http://is.gd/gisgG
#
mathchat
7:51 pm
Janshs
:
#
mathchat
sorry a bit late! Iam very much into using video to record students methods at the moment, I also like 20 min bursts of focus
7:51 pm
davidwees
:
My favourite idea I've used is the student creation of video word problems. So much fun & useful embedded skills. #
mathchat
7:54 pm
Cassyt
:
@
davidwees
What's the benefit to the video when writing a word problem? #
mathchat
7:54 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
davidwees
Is this the WCYDWT approach? Show the video and students ask the questions? #
mathchat
7:55 pm
Janshs
:
Thx! RT @
davidwees
Here's a collection of different ideas I used in math class:
http://is.gd/gisgG
#
mathchat
7:56 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Janshs
Is this part of the Ma1 communication requirements or is it more for formative assessment? #
mathchat
7:56 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
No, the WCYDWT approach is different because you set up the problem and the students follow your approach. #
mathchat
7:57 pm
Janshs
:
@
ColinTGraham
TBH am just experimenting w/ use to focus stdts & encourage the to express their undersatnding #
mathchat
7:57 pm
davidwees
:
@
Cassyt
1. They learn about problem creation as story telling 2. I have a resource of video word problems for next year. #
mathchat
7:57 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
davidwees
I could see WCYDWT being extended to get Ss to generate the problem though... ;) #
mathchat
7:57 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
how about using random.org for some mental maths starters?
7:58 pm
davidwees
:
Here's (almost) all of my math projects I've done over the past 6 years.
http://is.gd/git5J
#
mathchat
7:58 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
Yes definitely. There are lots of problems out there, students could easily engage with real problems. #
mathchat
7:59 pm
MissCheska
:
Awesome share! Thx! RT @
davidwees
: Here's (almost) all of my math projects I've done over the past 6 years.
http://is.gd/git5J
#
mathchat
7:59 pm
Janshs
:
I haven't even started w/ functional maths yet (I know I know) what's good to do there pls? #
mathchat
7:59 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
It can be difficult to determine if you have enough information so powerful practice for students. #
mathchat
#
wcydwt
8:00 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Janshs
How did you hit on the 20minute idea for focus? #
mathchat
8:00 pm
teachtgs
:
@
ColinTGraham
I actually really like the idea of big stats project of students choice for 11/12s. #
mathchat
8:02 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
davidwees
around 11/12yo many students seem to think maths can measure everything... so information and questioning becomes v imp #
mathchat
8:02 pm
Janshs
:
@
ColinTGraham
there's a neuroscience video somewhere on teachers TV .... #
mathchat
8:02 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
#
mathchat
using coins or cards to do counting practice and great music to warm the brain up
8:02 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
teachtgs
What kind of stats, and how do you go about designing data collection, handling and presentation? #
mathchat
8:02 pm
davidwees
:
@
teachtgs
@
ColinTGraham
I've done that for 5 years in IB Math Studies. Works really well. #
mathchat
8:03 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Janshs
Ah, brain work! I'll find it later... ;) #
mathchat
8:04 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
Do you use music in your lessons? What type, if you do? #
mathchat
8:04 pm
davidwees
:
I used Settlers of Catan one time to introduce probability. Students recognized quickly that not every number was equally likely. #
mathchat
8:05 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
ICanTeach_uk
I've used music in my lesson plans. We sing the "quadratic formula" song together. #
mathchat
8:05 pm
teachtgs
:
@
davidwees
@
ColinTGraham
IB Math studies is where idea came from. Data collection been from handout surveys to Google form #
mathchat
8:05 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
davidwees
What is Settlers of Catan, for those who don't know... ;) #
mathchat
8:06 pm
teachtgs
:
@
davidwees
@
ColinTGraham
Kids decide question and develop plan. Teacher guides development. Can be stats out there, but need new ? #
mathchat
8:06 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
It's a board game out of Germany. An awesome board game, lots of fun to play. #
mathchat
8:07 pm
davidwees
:
@
teachtgs
@
ColinTGraham
Yep, that's how we do it. Not always stats projects but I generally guide students in that direction. #
mathchat
8:07 pm
teachtgs
:
I have done a nice one with cell phone plans & systems of eqns. Can adapt to simple linear or more real piecewise. #
mathchat
8:07 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
teachtgs
My main concern is the drawing of conclusions from surveys  which is fairly advanced statistics... charts, etc. are ok! #
mathchat
8:08 pm
Janshs
:
@
davidwees
oh yeah we have the Pythagoras rap hehe, they do like it (or they humour me) #
mathchat
8:09 pm
Caro_lann
:
#
mathchat
I use WaterAid country information sheets for comparitive data work
http://j.mp/aYwjdq
8:09 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
ICanTeach_uk
I'm no longer convinced kids need to memorize the formula anymore but it's still fun. #
mathchat
8:09 pm
Cassyt
:
Good gravy! How much class time do you have? Catan takes 4ever! RT @
davidwees
: I used Settlers of Catan to introduce probability. #
mathchat
8:09 pm
davidwees
:
@
Janshs
Do you have them write their own math raps? #
mathchat
8:09 pm
teachtgs
:
@
ColinTGraham
Of course that is the meat of the project. I stick to corr coeff and chi squared testing. Does need stats unit. #
mathchat
8:10 pm
Janshs
:
@
davidwees
yes, we've had some good stuff too #
mathchat
8:10 pm
davidwees
:
@
teachtgs
I've done that one too! The kids here loved the project, pretty much from start to finish. #
mathchat
8:10 pm
davidwees
:
@
Cassyt
80 minute blocks. Used a downloadable opensource shared server so that kids play on their laptops. #
mathchat
8:11 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
davidwees
I'm not sure kids need to "memorize" much in mathematics. Automation is different though... as is application #
mathchat
8:11 pm
davidwees
:
@
Cassyt
And the kids don't have to actually finish the game to get the idea. They could also play the game for homework. #
mathchat
8:12 pm
ColinTGraham
:
For me, the 'neverfail' lessons have always been the origami, tangrams and, more often than not, make a slide rule lessons #
mathchat
8:12 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
teachtgs
Kids know the Chi squared test, Pearson's correllation coefficient, T test, so can draw some conclusions. #
mathchat
8:13 pm
davidwees
:
Okay, going for lunch, thanks for the #
mathchat
and ideas. Glad to see we have much in common.
8:13 pm
Caro_lann
:
#
mathchat
What is Catan?
8:13 pm
teachtgs
:
@
davidwees
I have adapted it to the different countries I am teaching in along the way. Autograph is a good tool for it too. #
mathchat
8:13 pm
Janshs
:
@
ColinTGraham
slide rule, Napiers Bones  all good stuff, also love anything based on Vedic art/times tables #
mathchat
8:14 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
davidwees
The drawing of conclusions does need to be based on good survey design though [he says in his statistician's voice!] #
mathchat
8:14 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Caro_lann
It's a German board game, I'll put a link in the archive! #
mathchat
8:15 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Janshs
Well I know that you and I are both into historically based introduction of concept approaches ;) #
mathchat
8:16 pm
EliFrank23
:
RT @
MissCheska
: Awesome share! Thx! RT @
davidwees
: Here's (almost) all of my math projects I've done over the past 6 years.
http://is.gd/git5J
#
mathchat
8:16 pm
teachtgs
:
@
ColinTGraham
Very true. Without enough data can't draw conclusions. That is where the teaching comes in. :) #
mathchat
8:16 pm
Cassyt
:
I work mainly with elementary students, so Battleship for coordinate graphing is fun. #
mathchat
8:17 pm
Janshs
:
@
ColinTGraham
but that is not because we are historical ourselves is it? :))) #
mathchat
8:17 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
teachtgs
Also there is the 'reinterpretation' of results to fit a question that wasn't actually asked. Good for critcl thinking #
mathchat
8:19 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Cassyt
There is a very good battleship activity which uses negative coordinates, done by @
icecolbeveridge
#
mathchat
8:20 pm
teachtgs
:
@
ColinTGraham
So true. The good part is since student choose topic actually interested in outcome. #
mathchat
8:21 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
teachtgs
If Ss are choosing topic, collecting data and doing analysis, it may also have been analysed elsewhere by others... #
mathchat
8:22 pm
ColinTGraham
:
RT @
ICanTeach_uk
: @
ColinTGraham
use music all the time for different reasons #
mathchat
8:23 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
I know some people who would come into my class and wonder about the music... (from #
ELT
teaching experience!) #
mathchat
8:24 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
davidwees
You say your kids have laptops... in lessons/classset or personal at home/outside class? #
mathchat
8:26 pm
Janshs
:
@
maxmathforum
not at mo, ethical issues, so just used in class #
mathchat
8:26 pm
ColinTGraham
:
RT @
ICanTeach_uk
: it all depends on when where and how and of course why  I use it to relax and to wake the students up #
mathchat
8:29 pm
teachtgs
:
@
ColinTGraham
Most seem interested their own school population, though if using data set out there I look for original idea. #
mathchat
8:29 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
the tangram activity on crickweb is great  loads of starter stuff in the numeracy section #
mathchat
8:29 pm
ColinTGraham
:
RT @
ICanTeach_uk
: fun active learning. dice allow you to get kids standing up/sitting down if it's a prime/odd/even number #
mathchat
8:31 pm
ColinTGraham
:
If I am 100% honest, Ss seem most engaged if they think they are doing something other than 'maths'  especially 13/14yo! #
mathchat
8:31 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
some people will come in to a classroom and either 'wonder' or *wonder*  choice is theirs and yours #
mathchat
8:32 pm
Janshs
:
@
ColinTGraham
I think they like to act Maths out, get creative w/ poems, songs, storyboards etc. #
mathchat
8:33 pm
maxmathforum
:
I like Suzanne's Traffic Jam lesson for gr. 68
http://mathforum.org/alejandre/frisbie/jam.html
#
mathchat
8:33 pm
maxmathforum
:
From Math Forum's "Teacher Exchange"
http://mathforum.org/te/
#
mathchat
8:34 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
Yes, I think the problem for the ELT people was 'Suggestopaedia' & "weird" ideas, maybe methodology vs. learning #
mathchat
8:37 pm
teachtgs
:
It is fun to have them write a Math Tale  a fairy tale with math problems in it. #
mathchat
8:37 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
Janshs
I still think it's the 'not doing maths' aspect that engages... ;) It's the same when I get the paper/LEGO out... #
mathchat
8:37 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
methodology surely requires forward thinking music is just a tool for raising standards
8:39 pm
ColinTGraham
:
One point that noone questioned on Thursday or today, so far, is who decides 'successful' or 'useful'... clearly it's us, but how #
mathchat
8:39 pm
Janshs
:
@
ColinTGraham
sure! I do Maths jigsaws sometimes, worked examples that they have to sequence and annotate #
mathchat
8:40 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
teachtgs
#
mathchat
that sounds brilliant!  one of the problems for students is mathematical literacy  factorize that
8:41 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
Methodology does require forward thinking, but 'stakeholders' need to be 'sold' on the efficacy...few open enough #
mathchat
8:44 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
@
Janshs
I call Maths problem solving and it seems to solve all the problems  was Head of Year too  sorry
8:44 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
Language use in mathematics is my main research interest... but that raises a completely separate topic! ;) #
mathchat
8:45 pm
teachtgs
:
I think of successful in terms of Ss learning. Sometimes u don't get it right the 1st time. U tweak or scrap & start again. #
mathchat
8:46 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
Never apologize for being HoY! Depends on the year, of course... ;) #
mathchat
8:48 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
teachtgs
Do you have examples of your Math Tales? I know @
MariaDroujkova
would be interested in them! #
mathchat
8:48 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
its a no brainer  engage stakeholders with some fun activities  sell them on the efficacy
8:49 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
Unless the kids use data from reliable sources. I tell my students: No surveys! #
mathchat
8:50 pm
teachtgs
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
MariaDroujkova
Unfortunately :( I do not have any student examples, but I could share the assignment sheet. #
mathchat
8:50 pm
davidwees
:
@
ColinTGraham
We are a 1 to 1 school so all kids have their own laptop. #
mathchat
8:50 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
teachtgs
Every little helps! It does seem like a good idea though... #
mathchat
8:51 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
@
teachtgs
#
mathchat
I could demonstrate hundreds of lesson ideas that have been scrapped!
8:51 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
maxmathforum
Seems like an update of the 'frogs on the lilypad', and maybe more accessible! #
mathchat
8:53 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
Understanding why ideas get scrapped or are perceived as 'unsuccessful' can help too, but not something to reproduce #
mathchat
8:55 pm
ColinTGraham
:
OK, last five minutes, any final thoughts or shares? #
mathchat
8:56 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
totally agree if you are not prepared to make mistakes then don't come into my classroom
8:56 pm
davidwees
:
@
teachtgs
I like that one! I had my students write a math story in my first year teaching but haven't gone further with it. #
mathchat
8:56 pm
Janshs
:
@
ColinTGraham
thanks for all ideas #
mathchat
8:59 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
@
ColinTGraham
#
mathchat
thanks Colin
9:00 pm
teachtgs
:
@
davidwees
Another fun thing is if the math is simple to go and read to a younger grade class and work it with them. #
mathchat
9:00 pm
ColinTGraham
:
OK, thanks everyone. Archive will be online in 30 minutes, or so, technology allowing  had to use my mother's PC tonight ;) #
mathchat
9:01 pm
teachtgs
:
Putting my Math Fairy/Folk Tale assignment into a GoogleDoc. Will share the link shortly. Please feel free to comment. #
mathchat
9:02 pm
ColinTGraham
:
Remember to follow @
mathchat
for updates to the Wiki and new participants. Also watch out for an important vote about times for #
mathchat
9:10 pm
teachtgs
:
Math Fairy/Folk Tales
http://bit.ly/cmsAUY
Please feel free to comment. Thanks. #
mathchat
9:15 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
#
mathchat
http://bit.ly/bOtl0v
I am sure you have seen these before but just in case........
9:16 pm
ColinTGraham
:
@
ICanTeach_uk
Never hurts to remind, if people have seen them before #
mathchat
9:16 pm
ICanTeach_uk
:
#
mathchat
and some wake up music to go with it
http://bit.ly/abbc4m
9:29 pm
davidwees
:
@
teachtgs
Awesome idea. I've added an extension idea in red. Trying to add some #
WCYDWT
to your original idea really. #
mathchat
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A show and tell of successful lessons, ideas and useful resources!
As it happened on Monday, 25th October 2010, 19:30  21:00 GMT