Topic (follow-up to Thursday, 21st October 2010):
A show and tell of successful lessons, ideas and useful resources!
As it happened on Monday, 25th October 2010, 19:30 - 21:00 GMT
7:33 pm
ColinTGraham:
Hello everyone and welcome to today's #mathchat
7:34 pm
ColinTGraham:
If it's your first time, don't try to follow everything, but focus on one or two people and interact with them instead #mathchat
7:35 pm
ColinTGraham:
Don't forget to use the hashtag ---> #mathchat
7:37 pm
ColinTGraham:
Tonight it is a show and tell of successful lessons, ideas and useful resources. Any links will be put in the archive later. #mathchat
7:39 pm
ColinTGraham:
So who want's to kick us off? #mathchat
7:40 pm
HPTeachExchange:
Engaging New Resources for the K12 Math, Science Teachers: Exploring Computational Thinking http://ow.ly/2Z8oD #mathchat #scichat
7:45 pm
maxmathforum:
What are people hoping for? #mathchat
7:46 pm
ColinTGraham:
No-one wants to share lessons or ideas or resources that worked or were successful? #mathchat
7:48 pm
Caro_lann:
#mathchat Imagination: stus close eyes. Tchr describes forming a solid e.g pyramid from ball of clay & cutting thru it. Stus draw cut face
7:49 pm
dweksler:
Attended conference this past weekend on teaching math with social justice themes . Workshop descriptions: http://bit.ly/c8cZ5b #mathchat
7:49 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham Sorry Colin, I do, but in the middle of class. Give me a few minutes. I have LOTS of ideas. #mathchat
7:49 pm
Cassyt:
@ColinTGraham Well, they're hard to sum up succinctly. #mathchat
7:51 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Cassyt Go for an intro and let people ask questions then! #mathchat
7:51 pm
davidwees:
Here's a collection of different ideas I used in math class: http://is.gd/gisgG #mathchat
7:51 pm
Janshs:
#mathchat sorry a bit late! Iam very much into using video to record students methods at the moment, I also like 20 min bursts of focus
7:51 pm
davidwees:
My favourite idea I've used is the student creation of video word problems. So much fun & useful embedded skills. #mathchat
7:54 pm
Cassyt:
@davidwees What's the benefit to the video when writing a word problem? #mathchat
7:54 pm
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees Is this the WCYDWT approach? Show the video and students ask the questions? #mathchat
7:55 pm
Janshs:
Thx! RT @davidwees Here's a collection of different ideas I used in math class: http://is.gd/gisgG #mathchat
7:56 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Janshs Is this part of the Ma1 communication requirements or is it more for formative assessment? #mathchat
7:56 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham No, the WCYDWT approach is different because you set up the problem and the students follow your approach. #mathchat
7:57 pm
Janshs:
@ColinTGraham TBH am just experimenting w/ use to focus stdts & encourage the to express their undersatnding #mathchat
7:57 pm
davidwees:
@Cassyt 1. They learn about problem creation as story telling 2. I have a resource of video word problems for next year. #mathchat
7:57 pm
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees I could see WCYDWT being extended to get Ss to generate the problem though... ;-) #mathchat
7:57 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham #mathchat how about using random.org for some mental maths starters?
7:58 pm
davidwees:
Here's (almost) all of my math projects I've done over the past 6 years. http://is.gd/git5J #mathchat
7:58 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham Yes definitely. There are lots of problems out there, students could easily engage with real problems. #mathchat
7:59 pm
MissCheska:
Awesome share! Thx! RT @davidwees: Here's (almost) all of my math projects I've done over the past 6 years. http://is.gd/git5J #mathchat
7:59 pm
Janshs:
I haven't even started w/ functional maths yet (I know I know) what's good to do there pls? #mathchat
7:59 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham It can be difficult to determine if you have enough information so powerful practice for students. #mathchat #wcydwt
8:00 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Janshs How did you hit on the 20-minute idea for focus? #mathchat
8:00 pm
teachtgs:
@ColinTGraham I actually really like the idea of big stats project of students choice for 11/12s. #mathchat
8:02 pm
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees around 11/12yo many students seem to think maths can measure everything... so information and questioning becomes v imp #mathchat
8:02 pm
Janshs:
@ColinTGraham there's a neuroscience video somewhere on teachers TV .... #mathchat
8:02 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
#mathchat using coins or cards to do counting practice and great music to warm the brain up
8:02 pm
ColinTGraham:
@teachtgs What kind of stats, and how do you go about designing data collection, handling and presentation? #mathchat
8:02 pm
davidwees:
@teachtgs @ColinTGraham I've done that for 5 years in IB Math Studies. Works really well. #mathchat
8:03 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Janshs Ah, brain work! I'll find it later... ;-) #mathchat
8:04 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk Do you use music in your lessons? What type, if you do? #mathchat
8:04 pm
davidwees:
I used Settlers of Catan one time to introduce probability. Students recognized quickly that not every number was equally likely. #mathchat
8:05 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham @ICanTeach_uk I've used music in my lesson plans. We sing the "quadratic formula" song together. #mathchat
8:05 pm
teachtgs:
@davidwees @ColinTGraham IB Math studies is where idea came from. Data collection been from handout surveys to Google form #mathchat
8:05 pm
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees What is Settlers of Catan, for those who don't know... ;-) #mathchat
8:06 pm
teachtgs:
@davidwees @ColinTGraham Kids decide question and develop plan. Teacher guides development. Can be stats out there, but need new ? #mathchat
8:06 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham It's a board game out of Germany. An awesome board game, lots of fun to play. #mathchat
8:07 pm
davidwees:
@teachtgs @ColinTGraham Yep, that's how we do it. Not always stats projects but I generally guide students in that direction. #mathchat
8:07 pm
teachtgs:
I have done a nice one with cell phone plans & systems of eqns. Can adapt to simple linear or more real piecewise. #mathchat
8:07 pm
ColinTGraham:
@teachtgs My main concern is the drawing of conclusions from surveys - which is fairly advanced statistics... charts, etc. are ok! #mathchat
8:08 pm
Janshs:
@davidwees oh yeah we have the Pythagoras rap hehe, they do like it (or they humour me) #mathchat
8:09 pm
Caro_lann:
#mathchat I use WaterAid country information sheets for comparitive data work http://j.mp/aYwjdq
8:09 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham @ICanTeach_uk I'm no longer convinced kids need to memorize the formula anymore but it's still fun. #mathchat
8:09 pm
Cassyt:
Good gravy! How much class time do you have? Catan takes 4ever! RT @davidwees: I used Settlers of Catan to introduce probability. #mathchat
8:09 pm
davidwees:
@Janshs Do you have them write their own math raps? #mathchat
8:09 pm
teachtgs:
@ColinTGraham Of course that is the meat of the project. I stick to corr coeff and chi squared testing. Does need stats unit. #mathchat
8:10 pm
Janshs:
@davidwees yes, we've had some good stuff too #mathchat
8:10 pm
davidwees:
@teachtgs I've done that one too! The kids here loved the project, pretty much from start to finish. #mathchat
8:10 pm
davidwees:
@Cassyt 80 minute blocks. Used a downloadable open-source shared server so that kids play on their laptops. #mathchat
8:11 pm
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees I'm not sure kids need to "memorize" much in mathematics. Automation is different though... as is application #mathchat
8:11 pm
davidwees:
@Cassyt And the kids don't have to actually finish the game to get the idea. They could also play the game for homework. #mathchat
8:12 pm
ColinTGraham:
For me, the 'never-fail' lessons have always been the origami, tangrams and, more often than not, make a slide rule lessons #mathchat
8:12 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham @teachtgs Kids know the Chi squared test, Pearson's correllation coefficient, T test, so can draw some conclusions. #mathchat
8:13 pm
davidwees:
Okay, going for lunch, thanks for the #mathchat and ideas. Glad to see we have much in common.
8:13 pm
Caro_lann:
#mathchat What is Catan?
8:13 pm
teachtgs:
@davidwees I have adapted it to the different countries I am teaching in along the way. Autograph is a good tool for it too. #mathchat
8:13 pm
Janshs:
@ColinTGraham slide rule, Napiers Bones - all good stuff, also love anything based on Vedic art/times tables #mathchat
8:14 pm
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees The drawing of conclusions does need to be based on good survey design though [he says in his statistician's voice!] #mathchat
8:14 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann It's a German board game, I'll put a link in the archive! #mathchat
8:15 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Janshs Well I know that you and I are both into historically based introduction of concept approaches ;-) #mathchat
8:16 pm
EliFrank23:
RT @MissCheska: Awesome share! Thx! RT @davidwees: Here's (almost) all of my math projects I've done over the past 6 years. http://is.gd/git5J #mathchat
8:16 pm
teachtgs:
@ColinTGraham Very true. Without enough data can't draw conclusions. That is where the teaching comes in. :) #mathchat
8:16 pm
Cassyt:
I work mainly with elementary students, so Battleship for coordinate graphing is fun. #mathchat
8:17 pm
Janshs:
@ColinTGraham but that is not because we are historical ourselves is it? :-))) #mathchat
8:17 pm
ColinTGraham:
@teachtgs Also there is the 're-interpretation' of results to fit a question that wasn't actually asked. Good for critcl thinking #mathchat
8:19 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Cassyt There is a very good battleship activity which uses negative co-ordinates, done by @icecolbeveridge #mathchat
8:20 pm
teachtgs:
@ColinTGraham So true. The good part is since student choose topic actually interested in outcome. #mathchat
8:21 pm
ColinTGraham:
@teachtgs If Ss are choosing topic, collecting data and doing analysis, it may also have been analysed elsewhere by others... #mathchat
8:22 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @ICanTeach_uk: @ColinTGraham use music all the time for different reasons #mathchat
8:23 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk I know some people who would come into my class and wonder about the music... (from #ELT teaching experience!) #mathchat
8:24 pm
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees You say your kids have laptops... in lessons/class-set or personal at home/outside class? #mathchat
8:26 pm
Janshs:
@maxmathforum not at mo, ethical issues, so just used in class #mathchat
8:26 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @ICanTeach_uk: it all depends on when where and how and of course why - I use it to relax and to wake the students up #mathchat
8:29 pm
teachtgs:
@ColinTGraham Most seem interested their own school population, though if using data set out there I look for original idea. #mathchat
8:29 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham the tangram activity on crickweb is great - loads of starter stuff in the numeracy section #mathchat
8:29 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @ICanTeach_uk: fun active learning. dice allow you to get kids standing up/sitting down if it's a prime/odd/even number #mathchat
8:31 pm
ColinTGraham:
If I am 100% honest, Ss seem most engaged if they think they are doing something other than 'maths' - especially 13/14yo! #mathchat
8:31 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham some people will come in to a classroom and either 'wonder' or *wonder* - choice is theirs and yours #mathchat
8:32 pm
Janshs:
@ColinTGraham I think they like to act Maths out, get creative w/ poems, songs, storyboards etc. #mathchat
8:33 pm
maxmathforum:
I like Suzanne's Traffic Jam lesson for gr. 6-8 http://mathforum.org/alejandre/frisbie/jam.html#mathchat
8:33 pm
maxmathforum:
From Math Forum's "Teacher Exchange" http://mathforum.org/te/ #mathchat
8:34 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk Yes, I think the problem for the ELT people was 'Suggestopaedia' & "weird" ideas, maybe methodology vs. learning #mathchat
8:37 pm
teachtgs:
It is fun to have them write a Math Tale - a fairy tale with math problems in it. #mathchat
8:37 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Janshs I still think it's the 'not doing maths' aspect that engages... ;-) It's the same when I get the paper/LEGO out... #mathchat
8:37 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham #mathchat methodology surely requires forward thinking music is just a tool for raising standards
8:39 pm
ColinTGraham:
One point that no-one questioned on Thursday or today, so far, is who decides 'successful' or 'useful'... clearly it's us, but how #mathchat
8:39 pm
Janshs:
@ColinTGraham sure! I do Maths jigsaws sometimes, worked examples that they have to sequence and annotate #mathchat
8:40 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@teachtgs #mathchat that sounds brilliant! - one of the problems for students is mathematical literacy - factorize that
8:41 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk Methodology does require forward thinking, but 'stakeholders' need to be 'sold' on the efficacy...few open enough #mathchat
8:44 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham #mathchat @Janshs I call Maths problem solving and it seems to solve all the problems - was Head of Year too - sorry
8:44 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk Language use in mathematics is my main research interest... but that raises a completely separate topic! ;-) #mathchat
8:45 pm
teachtgs:
I think of successful in terms of Ss learning. Sometimes u don't get it right the 1st time. U tweak or scrap & start again. #mathchat
8:46 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk Never apologize for being HoY! Depends on the year, of course... ;-) #mathchat
8:48 pm
ColinTGraham:
@teachtgs Do you have examples of your Math Tales? I know @MariaDroujkova would be interested in them! #mathchat
8:48 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham #mathchat its a no brainer - engage stakeholders with some fun activities - sell them on the efficacy
8:49 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham Unless the kids use data from reliable sources. I tell my students: No surveys! #mathchat
8:50 pm
teachtgs:
@ColinTGraham @MariaDroujkova Unfortunately :( I do not have any student examples, but I could share the assignment sheet. #mathchat
8:50 pm
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham We are a 1 to 1 school so all kids have their own laptop. #mathchat
8:50 pm
ColinTGraham:
@teachtgs Every little helps! It does seem like a good idea though... #mathchat
8:51 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham @teachtgs #mathchat I could demonstrate hundreds of lesson ideas that have been scrapped!
8:51 pm
ColinTGraham:
@maxmathforum Seems like an update of the 'frogs on the lilypad', and maybe more accessible! #mathchat
8:53 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk Understanding why ideas get scrapped or are perceived as 'unsuccessful' can help too, but not something to reproduce #mathchat
8:55 pm
ColinTGraham:
OK, last five minutes, any final thoughts or shares? #mathchat
8:56 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham #mathchat totally agree if you are not prepared to make mistakes then don't come into my classroom
8:56 pm
davidwees:
@teachtgs I like that one! I had my students write a math story in my first year teaching but haven't gone further with it. #mathchat
8:56 pm
Janshs:
@ColinTGraham thanks for all ideas #mathchat
8:59 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
@ColinTGraham #mathchat thanks Colin
9:00 pm
teachtgs:
@davidwees Another fun thing is if the math is simple to go and read to a younger grade class and work it with them. #mathchat
9:00 pm
ColinTGraham:
OK, thanks everyone. Archive will be online in 30 minutes, or so, technology allowing - had to use my mother's PC tonight ;-) #mathchat
9:01 pm
teachtgs:
Putting my Math Fairy/Folk Tale assignment into a GoogleDoc. Will share the link shortly. Please feel free to comment. #mathchat
9:02 pm
ColinTGraham:
Remember to follow @mathchat for updates to the Wiki and new participants. Also watch out for an important vote about times for #mathchat
9:10 pm
teachtgs:
Math Fairy/Folk Tales http://bit.ly/cmsAUY Please feel free to comment. Thanks. #mathchat
9:15 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
#mathchat http://bit.ly/bOtl0v I am sure you have seen these before but just in case........
9:16 pm
ColinTGraham:
@ICanTeach_uk Never hurts to remind, if people have seen them before #mathchat
9:16 pm
ICanTeach_uk:
#mathchat and some wake up music to go with it http://bit.ly/abbc4m
9:29 pm
davidwees:
@teachtgs Awesome idea. I've added an extension idea in red. Trying to add some #WCYDWT to your original idea really. #mathchat