Topic (follow-up to Thursday, 7th October 2010):
Does 'mathphobia' exist - how do we deal with it?
As it happened on Monday, 11th October 2010, 19:30 - 21:00 GMT
7:33 pm
ColinTGraham:
Hello and welcome to Monday's #mathchat
7:34 pm
ColinTGraham:
Sorry I wasn't with you last week, but I have been having technology issues, but glad to see you went on without me! #mathchat
7:35 pm
republicofmath:
Hi Colin #mathphobia: its existence, severity and possible remedy http://wp.me/pJESd-EY #mathchat [@suburbanlion very interesting topic]
7:36 pm
ColinTGraham:
As usual, we repeat the Thursday topic, which is: "Does 'mathphobia' exist - how do we deal with it?" #mathchat
7:36 pm
ColinTGraham:
If it is your first time, don't try to follow everything, just interact with one or two people. Don't forget the hashtag --> #mathchat
7:37 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath Hi Gary, thanks for kicking things off last week! Looks like it was an interesting session... #mathchat
7:37 pm
suburbanlion:
@republicofmath from ur post I got the impression that #mathphobia is a conditioned response to the word #math. Is that plausible? #mathchat
7:37 pm
ColinTGraham:
Don't worry about checking links during the chat, they will all be saved and extracted later in the archive. #mathchat
7:39 pm
Caro_lann:
Feel sure it exists in some adults. Deal with it by making new maths teaching/learning as unlike "school" maths as possible #mathchat
7:39 pm
ColinTGraham:
We need to be clear about using any word ending in -phobia, since these are often recognizable medical conditions. #mathchat
7:40 pm
republicofmath:
@Caro_Iann Yes, "retraining" to positive experiences is critical IME #mathchat #mathphobia
7:40 pm
ColinTGraham:
In this instance, mathphobia as a (severe) physical response is probably a lot less rare than 'dislike' or avoidance of maths. #mathchat
7:41 pm
republicofmath:
#ColinTGraham Not to put too fine a point on it : about time medicos recognized #mathphobia#mathchat
7:42 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann Particularly, being able to call it number skills and avoid the 'maths' label, since it may be arithmetic anyway! #mathchat
7:43 pm
republicofmath:
@ColinTGraham Yes, less rare, but common enough to be a genuine problem. #mathphobia#mathchat
7:43 pm
icecolbeveridge:
Hello, #mathchat! I think as teachers, we need to recognise and address maths anxiety and avoidance in students
7:43 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath Some clinical research has shown that telling an adult they will have a maths test in 10 minutes causes a BP rise. #mathchat
7:44 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath Interestingly, it seems that blood pressure goes up whether you consider yourself good or bad at maths. #mathchat
7:44 pm
republicofmath:
@ColinTgraham I have a Ph.D. in #math and it would make my BP rise!! #mathchat #mathphobia#tests
7:44 pm
icecolbeveridge:
I had a student on the phone last night in a panic - one of my brightest, and she's convinced she's rubbish at maths #mathchat
7:45 pm
ColinTGraham:
@icecolbeveridge Anxiety, avoidance and phobia are all differing degrees of an underlying problem, but may be different for each. #mathchat
7:45 pm
suburbanlion:
What are some ways to diagnose #mathphobia in students who are not vocal about it? In classroom? In distance learning? #mathchat
7:45 pm
republicofmath:
#icecolbeveridge Absolutely! #mathchat #mathphobia
7:46 pm
icecolbeveridge:
RT @ColinTGraham: Anxiety, avoidance and phobia are all differing degrees of an underlying problem, but may be different for each. #mathchat
7:46 pm
republicofmath:
So sad, @icecolbeveridge had student on phone last night in panic - one of my brightest, she's convinced she's rubbish at maths #mathchat
7:47 pm
ColinTGraham:
@suburbanlion Eye contact, lack of questions, reliance on working with others seem common in avoiders #mathchat
7:47 pm
icecolbeveridge:
#mathchat I'm working on getting my students to say "I can't see it yet - but I'm smart, I can figure it out" rather than "I can't do it"
7:48 pm
decisionstats:
RT @icecolbeveridge: #mathchat I'm working on getting my students to say "I can't see it yet - but I'm smart, I can figure it out" rather than "I can't do it"
7:48 pm
Trenzo25:
RT @republicofmath: So sad, @icecolbeveridge had student on phone last night in panic - one of my brightest, she's convinced she's rubbish at maths #mathchat
7:48 pm
Trenzo25:
RT @republicofmath: #icecolbeveridge Absolutely! #mathchat #mathphobia
7:48 pm
icecolbeveridge:
#mathchat and to notice when they're feeling frozen or panicky and just take a few seconds to breathe
7:48 pm
reasoningmind:
@icecolbeveridge It's really important to have teachers who pay attention to this. Too often it goes ignored. #mathchat
7:48 pm
TeaKayB:
@icecolbeveridge "I don't get it" drives me up the wall. It means "I'm not thinking about it any more".#mathchat
7:49 pm
cox_dan:
Hi #mathchat :) I think it's such a shame and there's no need to fear maths. It's the certainty of maths that I find comforting.
7:49 pm
GrampsyPete:
@suburbanlion There are some maths anxiety questionaires try http://www.stevechinn.co.uk/maths-quiz.html for one #mathchat
7:49 pm
reasoningmind:
RT @TeaKayB: @icecolbeveridge "I don't get it" drives me up the wall. It means "I'm not thinking about it any more".#mathchat Exactly.
7:49 pm
ColinTGraham:
Difficult in a class of 30 RT @reasoningmind: @icecolbeveridge It's really important to have teachers who pay attention to this... #mathchat
7:51 pm
ColinTGraham:
Could also mean "I don't want to get it", "I don't care"...RT @TeaKayB: @icecolbeveridge "I don't get it" drives me up the wall... #mathchat
7:51 pm
GrampsyPete:
@ColinTGraham @reasoningmind @icecolbeveridge perhaps a few anxiety based questions in an initial assessment? #mathchat
7:51 pm
reasoningmind:
@cox_dan But nothing is certain if you don't understand it, and that's where the #mathphobia comes from. #mathchat
7:51 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@ColinTGraham I agree, it's difficult. But if you're not connecting with your students, you're not teaching them. #mathchat
7:51 pm
TeaKayB:
@ColinTGraham Which is often the root of the 'not thinking any more' bit. #mathchat
7:52 pm
republicofmath:
An hour, a day a week? @icecolbeveridge #mathchat to notice when they're feeling frozen or panicky & just take a few seconds to breathe
7:52 pm
ColinTGraham:
I like uncertainty, that's where the challenging problems are! RT @cox_dan:... It's the certainty of maths that I find comforting. #mathchat
7:52 pm
reasoningmind:
@ColinTGraham True, that's why a classroom model that allows teachers more time to focus on individual needs is really helpful. #mathchat
7:54 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@TeaKayB I agree - sometimes it's laziness, sometimes it's because they've not done the work. But I can't judge that. #mathchat
7:54 pm
ColinTGraham:
I think the issue of attitudes towards maths and people's ability to do it are what need to be addressed, eg the Pizza Hut ad #mathchat
7:54 pm
thekizzaa:
It's socially acceptable to be bad at maths. People actually like to boast about it. #mathchat
7:55 pm
ColinTGraham:
@icecolbeveridge When you are in a primary school, you have more F2F time with your students, it becomes more difficult at 2ndary #mathchat
7:55 pm
icecolbeveridge:
#mathchat My interest in the topic stems from having had anxiety issues in the past - and from the outside, that could look like laziness.
7:55 pm
republicofmath:
Not IME: comes from #abusive#math #teachers @reasoningmind @cox_dan ... where #mathphobiacomes from #mathchat
7:55 pm
TeaKayB:
RT @TheKizzaa: It's socially acceptable to be bad at maths. People actually like to boast about it. #mathchat Depressing but true.
7:56 pm
ColinTGraham:
@thekizzaa I think it is our responsibility to call that out and stop that 'pride in being useless' #mathchat
7:56 pm
reasoningmind:
@ColinTGraham Wow, I had to take a quick youtube detour. I had never seen that pizza hut commercial. #mathchat
7:57 pm
icecolbeveridge:
#mathchat So how can we structure secondary lessons so we have more face to face time?
7:57 pm
republicofmath:
Have you seen pre-service teachers shaking with fear? @TheKizzaa acceptable to be bad @ math. People like to boast about it. #mathchat
7:58 pm
ColinTGraham:
@icecolbeveridge My interest comes more from counselling (I have a diploma in Hypnotherapy), we need to be clear about the roots #mathchat
7:58 pm
Caro_lann:
@GrampsyPete @suburbanlion anyone with anxiety would likely answer yes to all of the questions just to get it out of the way! #mathchat
7:58 pm
reasoningmind:
@republicofmath I've seen students in the best teachers' classrooms get disheartened by repeatedly being unable to solve problems. #mathchat
7:58 pm
thekizzaa:
@icecolbeveridge #mathchat it's easier for children to say "I don't care" rather than trying as their mindset is "I'm going to try and fail"
7:59 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath I find it totally surprising that people are being allowed to teach in UK primary schools without a GCSE pass #mathchat
7:59 pm
TeaKayB:
@republicofmath So many non-maths teachers are apallingly bad at maths: So many flummoxed by QTS tests; not even GCSE level stuff #mathchat
8:00 pm
reasoningmind:
RT @thekizzaa: @icecolbeveridge #mathchat I've never seen a student "try and fail." They just don't care about the outcome.
8:00 pm
ColinTGraham:
@thekizzaa There is also a general feeling in the current generation that "I can push a button" or "I can Google it" = laziness. #mathchat
8:01 pm
Caro_lann:
@ColinTGraham @cox_dan They dislike when I use "ish" to describe an answer - trying to get them away from "right answer land" #mathchat
8:01 pm
TeaKayB:
@icecolbeveridge you can't do a lot for f2f time: 30+ kids, 60 mins, max 2mins per kid (not counting lateness, transitions etc) #mathchat
8:01 pm
thekizzaa:
@ColinTGraham What's the point in a stem and leaf diagram? #mathchat
8:01 pm
ColinTGraham:
Japanese elementary school teachers face similar problems with having to teach English. I have seen adults literally quaking... #mathchat
8:02 pm
reasoningmind:
@thekizzaa Ha! We actually had a big talk about this at my company. I enjoy stem and leaf plots but most don't. #mathchat
8:02 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@TeaKayB I imagine some would need more help than others, right? ;o) #mathchat
8:02 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann I cheat by saying we're looking a approximate or close answer, which is a skill too - estimation #mathchat
8:03 pm
republicofmath:
@reasoningmind I agree. But the best of us cannot always solve problems. Trick is to learn how to stay upbeat. Teachers job IMO #mathchat
8:03 pm
Caro_lann:
@republicofmath @TheKizzaa I've also seen in-service teachers shaking with fear. And not teaching some stuff as a result. #mathchat
8:03 pm
ColinTGraham:
@thekizzaa They make timetables a lot easier to read, and give you an idea about frequencies #mathchat
8:04 pm
reasoningmind:
RT @ColinTGraham: @Caro_lann I definitely think there are some merits to "Guess and Check" with proper guidance. #mathchat
8:04 pm
cox_dan:
#mathchat Recurring problem I'm having at the problem is getting them to realise they can often check their answers without having to ask me
8:04 pm
TeaKayB:
@icecolbeveridge Which is how it works now: More able kids don't get att'n because they don't 'need' it. Could still benefit tho #mathchat
8:05 pm
ColinTGraham:
One approach using by JALT was to hold sheltered-English workshops to specifically address teacher fears in relation to Eng lang #mathchat
8:05 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@TeaKayB Sure, I'm not saying ignore them ;o) #mathchat
8:06 pm
ColinTGraham:
@TeaKayB Or some kids get used to the idea of "not getting it" just to get more interaction with the teacher (eg diff family sitn) #mathchat
8:06 pm
TeaKayB:
Anyone else heard of "C3B4ME"? #mathchat
8:07 pm
republicofmath:
@Caro_lann @ColinTGraham Approximating is not "cheating": It's intelligent behavior! What told you it's cheating? #mathchat
8:07 pm
ColinTGraham:
@cox_dan I quite often given students a set of problems, give them the answers and tell them exactly one of them is wrong. #mathchat
8:07 pm
ColinTGraham:
Yes :-) RT @TeaKayB: Anyone else heard of "C3B4ME"? #mathchat
8:08 pm
cox_dan:
@ColinTGraham I like that idea - will try that. Thanks! #mathchat
8:09 pm
TeaKayB:
@dailydenouement @colintgraham Is it effective? #mathchat
8:09 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath The 'cheat' in the sense I used it, is to 'cheat' the student's concept that maths always has exact answers #mathchat
8:10 pm
ColinTGraham:
IME it depends on how consistently you use it. RT @TeaKayB: @dailydenouement @colintgrahamIs it effective? #mathchat
8:11 pm
icecolbeveridge:
I'd like to set up arguments between teachers to stimulate discussion. These should be called maths debates, for max giggle factor #mathchat
8:11 pm
mathsatschool:
@TeaKayB #mathchat Have 3b4me posted on wall and am insisting on it's use (started this term)
8:11 pm
bekios:
RT @TeaKayB: Anyone else heard of "C3B4ME"? #mathchat
8:12 pm
republicofmath:
@ColinTgraham Term "cheat" privileges a point of view. Work of Stan Dehaene et al show brain work differently in approximating. #mathchat
8:13 pm
republicofmath:
We seem to have moved a long way from #mathphobia #mathchat
8:13 pm
bekios:
Our school introduced last year. Great when implemented properly RT @TeaKayB: Anyone else heard of "C3B4ME"? #mathchat
8:14 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath It is about addressing the difference between being lazy/avoiding & being genuinely anxious, they need separating #mathchat
8:16 pm
MathsChatterbox:
#mathphobia - when the head asks a maths question at the parents SAT's meeting - and all 45 pairs of eyes look at the floor #mathchat
8:16 pm
ColinTGraham:
Summary so far: anxiety and avoidance are different, but Ss may display similar signs. Attitudes/fallacies need to be addressed. #mathchat
8:17 pm
republicofmath:
@ColinTGraham IMO some people not recognizing seriousness, reality, extent of #mathphobia. Perhaps never experienced it? #mathchat
8:18 pm
ColinTGraham:
@MathsChatterbox We need to be clear that this is the UK SAT, and not the US version... #mathchat
8:18 pm
cox_dan:
#mathchat Does fixing math anxiety need a top-down or bottom-up approach? (so to speak...)
8:18 pm
icecolbeveridge:
RT @republicofmath: @ColinTGraham IMO some people not recognizing seriousness, reality, extent of #mathphobia. Perhaps never experienced it? #mathchat
8:19 pm
TeaKayB:
#mathphobia not important in most people's eyes, as maths isn't important. Advice? Stop teaching, wait 20 years, say "see?" #mathchat
8:19 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath I think #mathphobia is not recognized as it should be, because many sufferers will develop avoidance strategies. #mathchat
8:20 pm
MathsChatterbox:
@ColinTGraham #mathphobia - it's the UK SAT's - but the symptoms do not respect international borders! #mathchat
8:20 pm
republicofmath:
@ColinTGraham Summary is missing fundamental point: many prospective elementary teachers are shaking with fear at thought of #math #mathchat
8:20 pm
ColinTGraham:
@TeaKayB the obverse is that people do see maths as being important, but get scared because they can't do it... #mathchat
8:21 pm
suburbanlion:
RT @ColinTGraham: @republicofmath I think #mathphobia is not recognized as it should be, because many sufferers will develop avoidance strategies. #mathchat
8:22 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath Thanks, can't do everything in 140 chars, Gary! #mathchat
8:22 pm
TeaKayB:
@ColinTGraham I genuinely feel that people genuinely don't see the importance of it; use that to justify not overcoming fear. #mathchat
8:22 pm
republicofmath:
Missed @suburbanlion in #mathchat
8:23 pm
republicofmath:
Time to go and have a beer. Thanks everyone! #mathchat
8:24 pm
republicofmath:
@ColinTGraham Thanks - great job, as always #mathchat
8:24 pm
ColinTGraham:
I compare the homophobic "I hate gays" = hiding fear of their own sexuality, with the "I hate maths" = fear of inadequate skill #mathchat
8:25 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath Thanks Gary, catch you next time! #mathchat
8:27 pm
ColinTGraham:
@KnikiDavies This comes down to curriculum design which is a different issue. I might as well ask why are we teaching cooking... #mathchat
8:27 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@ColinTGraham I want to go on a maths pride march! #mathchat
8:28 pm
ColinTGraham:
Maths is clearly seen as important by the "education" people in government, as is English and, one would hope, ICT... #mathchat
8:29 pm
republicofmath:
#MathMonday Hot #math folk: #ColinTGraham #suburbanlion #mathchat
8:29 pm
TeaKayB:
RT @icecolbeveridge: @ColinTGraham I want to go on a maths pride march! #mathchat <-- That's a good idea...
8:29 pm
ColinTGraham:
It's probably fair to say that those teaching maths at secondary or higher levels will generally not be afraid or anxious about it #mathchat
8:29 pm
mathsatschool:
I'll come. Maths and proud! ----> @icecolbeveridge @ColinTGraham I want to go on a maths pride march! #mathchat
8:30 pm
davidwees:
RT @icecolbeveridge: @ColinTGraham I want to go on a maths pride march! #mathchat
8:30 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @Caro_lann: @ColinTGraham Trouble is that they see arithmetic as important (numeracy, functional maths) not creative maths. #mathchat
8:31 pm
Caro_lann:
@ColinTGraham not so - I have seen A level teachers avoiding stats or avoiding mechanics out of anxiety #mathchat
8:34 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann A-level is a case of expertise and subject knowledge, in some cases it could be down to not having time to 'brush up' #mathchat
8:34 pm
Caro_lann:
And I have seen lots of mechanical formulaic teaching of calculus #mathchat
8:35 pm
mathsatschool:
I asked the question 'what is maths' to adults and children for MA task recently. VERY surprised by universal positive response #mathchat
8:35 pm
cox_dan:
@Caro_lann @ColinTGraham A level teachers avoiding stats or avoiding mechanics out of anxiety #mathchat - yup: experienced that
8:36 pm
Caro_lann:
@ColinTGraham Agree, mostly. But still there are people who really dont like the subject enough to dispel anxiety in others #mathchat
8:37 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann Mechanical teaching and @KnikiDavies's point about purpose suggest that teacher training issues/focus is a problem...? #mathchat
8:38 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann Well I will "come out" and say that I love teaching Stats, but hate teaching Mechanics, which keeps colleagues happy! #mathchat
8:38 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@Caro_lann You've hit the nail on the head there- if you're not confident, you don't encourage qs you might not be able to answer. #mathchat
8:39 pm
chris_1974:
@cox_dan @Caro_lann @ColinTGraham but best thing i ever did was face fears and teach mechs. quite like it now. #mathchat
8:39 pm
NISSSAMSI:
#mathchat. 1 pt: many journalists suffer from #mathphobia too & use # all the time in articles, but don't know if # are real or not.
8:39 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @KnikiDavies: I love it, but worry about leaving people behind some things seem so obvious to me I find it hard to reframe them #mathchat
8:40 pm
icecolbeveridge:
RT @chris_1974: but best thing i ever did was face fears and teach mechs. quite like it now. #mathchat
8:40 pm
NISSSAMSI:
#mathchat I know you all left to have your beer. Hope you have one for me as I'm still working.
8:40 pm
republicofmath:
LOL Watch out, we're coming out! @icecolbeveridge @ColinTGraham I want to go on a maths pride march! #mathchat
8:41 pm
ColinTGraham:
@icecolbeveridge And if you are not confident about something, you are unlikely to ask questions to show your inadequacy to others #mathchat
8:41 pm
cox_dan:
@chris_1974 @Caro_lann @ColinTGraham did similar thing: fought stats head-on by marking it 4 exam board &teaching S2. Like it now #mathchat
8:42 pm
ColinTGraham:
@cox_dan @chris_1974 what your experience shows, though, is willingness or confidence to "face the fear" and overcome it, not easy #mathchat
8:42 pm
chris_1974:
being ropey @ mechs makes me a good teacher of it. Have had to turn it into something even *I* understand #mathchat
8:42 pm
republicofmath:
RT @ColinTGraham: Hello and welcome to Monday's #mathchat
8:42 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @KnikiDavies: @Caro_lann my pgce mainly focused on subject knowledge rather than pedagogy where maths was concerned. #mathchat
8:43 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @Caro_lann: Hard to teach empathy - some of the best numeracy teachers are those who had failed at school then tried again. #mathchat
8:43 pm
Caro_lann:
@ColinTGraham @cox_dan @chris_1974 Exactly - "knowing what it feels like" helps #mathchat
8:43 pm
republicofmath:
The one I'm drinking now is for you! @NISSSAMSI #mathchat I know y'all left to have beer. Hope you have one for me as I'm still working.
8:44 pm
TeaKayB:
Am more than willing to tutor any budding mathsphobic teachers #hint #mathchat http://bit.ly/Z5xF3;-)
8:45 pm
ColinTGraham:
@chris_1974 I think that idea of explaining "something even *I* understand" could be used with Ss to help the mathphobes #mathchat
8:45 pm
ColinTGraham:
#mathchat
8:45 pm
republicofmath:
Something to think about: ?I need to vomit when I think about #fractions? http://wp.me/pJESd-EY #mathphobia #mathchat
8:45 pm
icecolbeveridge:
RT @TeaKayB: Am more than willing to tutor any budding mathsphobic teachers #hint #mathchathttp://bit.ly/Z5xF3 ;-) [me too]
8:46 pm
padgets:
#mathchat Hey everybody, sorry I am late, just got done with kids, what is the topic? :-)
8:46 pm
Caro_lann:
@ColinTGraham @KnikiDavies Our DTLLS assumes subject knowledge and focuses on pedagogy. But lack of empathy is a problem still. #mathchat
8:46 pm
ColinTGraham:
@padgets Hi Sharon, mathphobia, same as Thursday! #mathchat
8:47 pm
NISSSAMSI:
RT @republicofmath: Something to think about: ?I need to vomit when I think about #fractions?http://wp.me/pJESd-EY #mathphobia #mathchat
8:48 pm
republicofmath:
@icecolbeveridge @TeaKayB It takes a little more - a lot more - than "tutoring". These students are terrified. #mathchat #mathphobia
8:49 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann So do you see empathy as being particularly more relevant for adults (LLL), or that it needs more weight generally? #mathchat
8:49 pm
cox_dan:
@ColinTGraham @chris_1974 Do we need to instill a 'have a go' attitude in students. Show them it's OK to struggle but keep trying #mathchat
8:50 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@republicofmath @TeaKayB #mathchat I disagree - I work with terrified students all the time and work on calming them down.
8:50 pm
republicofmath:
@suburbanlion Missed you on #mathchat
8:50 pm
ColinTGraham:
@republicofmath Yes, genuine fears and anxieties are usually based on some kind of trauma or abuse related to the object of fear #mathchat
8:51 pm
ColinTGraham:
@cox_dan I think getting students to 'struggle' with anything is a problem, even when it's something they want to do... #mathchat
8:52 pm
republicofmath:
Great, but its not just "tutoring" @ icecolbeveridge #mathchat disagree, work with terrified students all time & work on calming them down.
8:52 pm
chris_1974:
@cox_dan @ColinTGraham yes! Acitivity in class where 'success criteria' is to have tried something. Anything! #mathchat
8:53 pm
Caro_lann:
@ColinTGraham I think that sensitivity to potential fear in early school is important in avoiding phobia later #mathchat
8:53 pm
ColinTGraham:
@chris_1974 @cox_dan Success in mathematics is not something that should be equated with 'getting the right answer' though... #mathchat
8:54 pm
icecolbeveridge:
@republicofmath I guess we're talking semantics now ;o) I see tutoring as whatever gets my students to learn. #mathchat
8:54 pm
ColinTGraham:
The message that seems to be coming across is: if we want to reduce students' anxiety about maths, we need to know them better #mathchat
8:55 pm
vboykis:
RT @NISSSAMSI: #mathchat. 1 pt: many journalists suffer from #mathphobia too & use # all the time in articles, but don't know if # are real or not.
8:56 pm
ColinTGraham:
We need to separate genuine physical fear/anxiety from avoidance, and address the underlying causes of the fear - if we can. #mathchat
8:57 pm
republicofmath:
@icecolbeveridge Maybe English is barrier b'ween UK, USA & AUS. "Tutoring" may mean something different to you! #mathchat
8:57 pm
ColinTGraham:
This is clearly a huge topic, and I'm sure we'll revisit it, but any final thoughts or comments in the last few minutes? #mathchat
8:58 pm
republicofmath:
@icecolbeveridge Got it (finally) #mathchat
8:59 pm
chris_1974:
Thanks to everyone whose posted to my wall for Heads of Maths tomorrow. Any last thoughts?http://bit.ly/9uD4O5 #mathchat #ukedchat
9:00 pm
republicofmath:
Care, deeply, for our students. @ColinTGraham Clearly huge topic, sure we'll revisit , final thoughts/comments in last few mins? #mathchat
9:00 pm
Caro_lann:
Final thought. Just dont assume laziness or intransigence - it could be fear causing avoidance. #mathchat
9:01 pm
icecolbeveridge:
RT @Caro_lann: Final thought. Just dont assume laziness or intransigence - it could be fear causing avoidance. #mathchat
9:01 pm
chris_1974:
Excellent point RT @Caro_lann: Final thought. Just dont assume laziness or intransigence - it could be fear causing avoidance. #mathchat
9:01 pm
icecolbeveridge:
RT @republicofmath: Care, deeply, for our students. @ColinTGraham Clearly huge topic, sure we'll revisit , final thoughts/comments in last few mins? #mathchat
9:02 pm
ColinTGraham:
@Caro_lann Particularly if your students are refugees or non-native speakers... #mathchat
9:02 pm
republicofmath:
@ColinTGraham Great session. Thanks to you and all participants. Really enjoyed conversations. Who says Twitter is BS? #mathchat
9:02 pm
ColinTGraham:
OK, if there are no more burning thoughts to share... thanks everyone! Don't forget to vote for Thursday: http://bit.ly/c9KL7u #mathchat
9:02 pm
cox_dan:
I think we need to teach students to think like mathematicians - it involves going down many dead-ends before finding the solution #mathchat
9:03 pm
cox_dan:
RT @Caro_lann: Final thought. Just dont assume laziness or intransigence - it could be fear causing avoidance. #mathchat
9:05 pm
cox_dan:
Really enjoyed my first #mathchat - thanks to everyone
9:05 pm
ColinTGraham:
As usual (except for last week!), the archive will be online in about 30 minutes. Add some ideas too!http://bit.ly/aOhxOU #mathchat
9:06 pm
ColinTGraham:
@cox_dan Glad to have you with us Dan! #mathchat