Topic: What maths should be in a curriculum that every adult should know or be able to do?
As it happened on Thursday, 26th August 2010, 23:30 - 00:30 GMT
11:30 pm
ColinTGraham:
Hello everyone, welcome to this week's #mathchat
11:31 pm
ColinTGraham:
The topic is "What maths should be in a curriculum that every adult should know or be able to do?" #mathchat
11:32 pm
ColinTGraham:
If it is your first time here, welcome! Just try to focus on one or two interesting tweets and interact. #mathchat
11:32 pm
mthman:
What math do the parents tell you they can no longer do when helping their students? #mathchat
11:33 pm
ColinTGraham:
Tonight's topic was chosen because it was only 1 vote away from last week's so it's clearly an important topic #mathchat
11:33 pm
cybraryman1:
Adults need maths to help them with budgets, taxes, stocks, insurance etc. #mathchat
11:33 pm
mthman:
Long day...just finished leading a full-day PD session... #mathchat
11:34 pm
ColinTGraham:
Throw out questions, topics, think like an adult, not a Mathematics Teacher.... if you can! #mathchat
11:34 pm
mthman:
@cybraryman1 Those are things that went by the wayside after NCLB! #mathchat
11:34 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mthman Hi Ron, hope everything went well #mathchat
11:35 pm
suburbanlion:
#math skills every adult needs: observe patterns, reason logically & use conclusions to solve problems. #mathchat
11:35 pm
ColinTGraham:
What do you use on a daily basis that are absolute 'must haves' ? #mathchat
11:35 pm
mthman:
Great day...lots of positive energy for what we proposed today. #mathchat
11:35 pm
ColinTGraham:
RT @mthman: What math do the parents tell you they can no longer do when helping their students? #mathchat
11:36 pm
ColinTGraham:
@suburbanlion Are those just for maths, though or do you think that's what we'd like our students to be doing? #mathchat
11:36 pm
mathchat:
RT @cybraryman1: Adults need maths to help them with budgets, taxes, stocks, insurance etc. #mathchat
11:37 pm
mthman:
@ColinTGraham I incorporate skill builders (integers, order of ops, etc.) and mental math 3-4 times per week. #mathchat
11:37 pm
georgewoodbury:
Some statistical skills - being able to determine if data, and conclusions drawn from them, makes sense. #mathchat
11:37 pm
cybraryman1:
@mthman Don't get me started on NCLB! I know but adults do need how to do these things. #mathchat
11:38 pm
cybraryman1:
@cuevash Yes finance would be very helpful. #mathchat
11:38 pm
ColinTGraham:
@georgewoodbury What particular contexts do you feel are especially important here? #mathchat
11:38 pm
Mollybmom:
I always share the goal of my lesson with students daily... helps them understand what we r hoping 2 accomplish! #mathchat
11:38 pm
cybraryman1:
A former student just contacted me & thanked me for teaching him about stocks when he was in my class #mathchat
11:39 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mthman NCLB for those who may not know is..? #mathchat
11:39 pm
mthman:
@cybraryman1 Agreed! I fondly remember my unit on "Consumer Math"...ordering from a menu, tax + tip, etc. #mathchat
11:40 pm
georgewoodbury:
Adults need to be able to read the paper, or listen to a newscast, and be able to understand. Any potential biases? #mathchat
11:40 pm
enpsteacher:
Passionate about teaching? Me 2: please follow me & I'll return favor! Please RETWEET! #edchat#edtech #mathchat #moodle #iwork #elemchat
11:41 pm
ColinTGraham:
Check out Money matters to me on: Resources - Adult numeracy http://bit.ly/bINugE #mathchat
11:41 pm
mthman:
@ColinTGraham No Child Left Behind...federal legislation that killed creativity and focuses on test scores! #mathchat
11:42 pm
georgewoodbury:
Some basic stats are important, mean vs. median, standard deviation. Experiment design. Meaning of statistical significance. #mathchat
11:42 pm
mthman:
@georgewoodbury Hard to do when newspapers keep folding...pricing themselves out of households! #mathchat
11:42 pm
ColinTGraham:
Why so fondly? RT @mthman: @cybraryman1 Agreed! I fondly remember my unit on "Consumer Math"...ordering from a menu, tax+tip, etc. #mathchat
11:43 pm
georgewoodbury:
@mthman Good point. Replace newspapers with web sites! #mathchat
11:43 pm
mdsosa:
RT @suburbanlion #math skills every adult needs: observe patterns, reason logically & use conclusions to solve problems. #mathchat
11:44 pm
ghewgley:
The #mathchat Daily is out - read this Twitter newspaper on http://paper.li/tag/mathchat (9 contributions today)
11:44 pm
mthman:
@ColinTGraham Can't teach it...pushed out by pacing guides, assessments, state/district mandates. #mathchat
11:44 pm
ColinTGraham:
@georgewoodbury Do you think adults understand the concept of bias generally or are Stats a turn-off? #mathchat
11:44 pm
cybraryman1:
@ColinTGraham I tried to teach my students skills they would need in the real world. How to shop for example #mathchat
11:45 pm
mthman:
@georgewoodbury True...but not optimal...given the over-exposure to ads, too much content. A newspaper is finite, not the web! #mathchat
11:45 pm
cybraryman1:
Accounting/Banking/Economics/Insurance/Budgets/Statistics/Stocks/Tax Find links to these on my Bus Ed page: http://bit.ly/5GmXbd #mathchat
11:46 pm
ColinTGraham:
It's sounding like we should really be teaching basic financial management... but isn't that a parent's job? #mathchat
11:46 pm
onmejack:
Students say 'i hate maths' no they hate how maths' is taught the forget they use maths' all the time #mathchat
11:46 pm
georgewoodbury:
@ColinTGraham I think many adults blindly accept results. Unsure if it's being too lazy to question or Stat phobic. #mathchat
11:47 pm
cybraryman1:
@ColinTGraham See my Teacher Notes on my Consumerism page: http://bit.ly/8AG5rE #mathchat
11:48 pm
ColinTGraham:
I suspect the former! RT @georgewoodbury: I think many adults blindly accept results. Unsure if it's being too lazy to question... #mathchat
11:48 pm
georgewoodbury:
Detecting bias is more common sense that statistical ability - that's the message that needs to get out. #mathchat
11:48 pm
onmejack:
I used international time zones to get students to work on maths'. Though the date line broke them #mathchat
11:48 pm
marcelamomberg:
RT @cybraryman1: Accounting/Banking/Economics/Insurance/Budgets/Statistics/Stocks/Tax Find links to these on my Bus Ed page: http://bit.ly/5GmXbd #mathchat
11:49 pm
georgewoodbury:
Being able to communicate mathematically is a big skill, including reading but also presenting information. #mathchat
11:49 pm
onmejack:
Play Snooker RT @ColinTGraham: 10 minutes: "What maths should be in a curriculum that every adult should know or be able to do?" #mathchat
11:49 pm
ColinTGraham:
@onmejack I was freaked out flying from Japan to Hawaii, when crossing the dateline - tomorrow and yesterday with me in today! #mathchat
11:50 pm
LesLinks:
@onmejack funny friend of minge jst said that.hated the teacher & the way math was taught.. so is uncomfortable with numbers today #mathchat
11:50 pm
ColinTGraham:
@onmejack Playing snooker belongs in the physics/science class with Brownian motion!!! #mathchat
11:50 pm
georgewoodbury:
That's why I love all the teachers who have their students blog and give presentations. #mathchat
11:51 pm
onmejack:
Exactly! RT @ColinTGraham: I freaked out flying from Japan to Hawaii, crossing dateline - tomorrow and yesterday with me in today! #mathchat
11:51 pm
mthman:
@georgewoodbury YES! Invite them to help be part of the process instead of forcing them to be consumers of math! #mathchat
11:52 pm
POWERORGmath:
RT @ColinTGraham: It's sounding like we should really be teaching basic financial management... but isn't that a parent's job? #mathchat
11:53 pm
onmejack:
Working out angles/distance. Score RT @ColinTGraham: Playing snooker belongs in the physics/science class with Brownian motion!!! #mathchat
11:53 pm
mthman:
The best lessons are the ones that grew out of a question that a student asked! #mathchat
11:53 pm
ColinTGraham:
But do they recognize what WE think maths is? Should we teach that? RT @onmejack: Students say 'i hate maths' no they hate .... #mathchat
11:53 pm
georgewoodbury:
Often overlooked are study skills. When we learn how to learn math, we can help our own kids when they struggle. #mathchat
11:54 pm
ColinTGraham:
@georgewoodbury What do you mean by mathematical communication? #mathchat
11:54 pm
onmejack:
Blackjack RT @ColinTGraham: 10 minutes: "What maths should be in a curriculum that every adult should know or be able to do?" #mathchat
11:54 pm
suburbanlion:
@ColinTGraham those skills are how I would define math & I do think they are underemphasized in the curriculum #mathchat
11:54 pm
georgewoodbury:
We can help even after the math skills in question have become rusty. "Let's look at your notes. Let's open the book. ..." #mathchat
11:55 pm
mthman:
@georgewoodbury How many parents help model study skills...ask children multiplication facts during a car ride, etc.? #mathchat
11:55 pm
georgewoodbury:
2 way communication - should be able to read and understand math related materials. #mathchat
11:55 pm
ColinTGraham:
What do we mean by applying mathematics... UK used to talk about application of number... is there a difference? #mathchat
11:56 pm
georgewoodbury:
Should also be able to present mathematical ideas to others. Orally or written. #mathchat
11:57 pm
dweksler:
@georgewoodbury What's an example of presenting mathematical ideas? #mathchat
11:57 pm
1nbm:
RT @mthman: The best lessons are the ones that grew out of a question that a student asked! #mathchat #edchat
11:57 pm
georgewoodbury:
@mthman Probably not enough. Sadly. I guess what I am getting at is parents can help kids even though their math skills have faded #mathchat
11:58 pm
mthman:
A skill that is overlooked is modeling failure and how to learn from it... #mathchat
11:58 pm
ColinTGraham:
Do we need to spend more time helping distinguish between math/maths and arithmetic? #mathchat
11:58 pm
POWERORGmath:
RT @georgewoodbury: That's why I love all the teachers who have their students blog and give presentations. #mathchat
11:58 pm
georgewoodbury:
Many parents probably throw up their hands and say I don't remember. Open the book, look at the notes, search the Net, ... #mathchat
11:58 pm
onmejack:
What do WE think maths is?!? RT @ColinTGraham: But do they recognize what WE think maths is? Should we teach that? #mathchat
11:59 pm
ColinTGraham:
@mthman Ah, the Thomas Edison approach to light bulbs! #mathchat
11:59 pm
suburbanlion:
@georgewoodbury agreed, being able to effectively communicate abstract ideas is very valuable skill. #mathchat
11:59 pm
JulieeJohnsonn:
So True! RT @mthman a skill that is overlooked is modeling failure and how to learn from it... #mathchat


ColinTGraham:
Or panic RT @georgewoodbury: Many parents probably throw up their hands and say I don't remember. Open the book, ... #mathchat

mathheadinc:
@georgewoodbury If only we could convince some parents to stop saying, "I'm not a math person so neither is my kid" that wld work. #mathchat

onmejack:
RT @LesLinks: @onmejack funny friend of minge jst said that.hated the teacher & the way math was taught.. so is uncomfortable with numbers today #mathchat

mthman:
Sometimes a barrier to a parent helping their child is the textbook! #mathchat
12:01 am
mathheadinc:
@georgewoodbury Parents remember standard math not the crazy new math of today. That's why they have a hard time helping. #mathchat
12:01 am
onmejack:
Maths' is an essential life skill. It needs to be taught as such #mathchat
12:01 am
ColinTGraham:
@onmejack My point exactly! Maths = curriculum, process, way of doing something..? How do maths teachers approach their own kids? #mathchat
12:02 am
POWERORGmath:
@mthman @georgewoodbury Adults need to know how to I'd & ignore extraneous info #mathchat
12:02 am
ccampbel14:
@mthman Or parents think there is only one way, the RIGHT way, to solve a problem. That is challenging for teachers. #mathchat
12:02 am
POWERORGmath:
@ColinTGraham Parents can't teach Basic Financial Literacy if they don't know it. #mathchat
12:02 am
ColinTGraham:
Manipulation of numerical concepts, perhaps? RT @onmejack: Maths' is an essential life skill. It needs to be taught as such #mathchat
12:02 am
POWERORGmath:
RT @onmejack: Students say 'i hate maths' no they hate how maths' is taught the forget they use maths' all the time #mathchat
12:03 am
mathheadinc:
@jreulbach They don't realize what they're doing bc they think being bad at math is genetic. #mathchat
12:03 am
mthman:
@ccampbel14 OLD SCHOOL! One track mind... #mathchat
12:03 am
philhart:
RT @onmejack: Students say 'i hate maths' no they hate how maths' is taught the forget they use maths' all the time #mathchat
12:03 am
ColinTGraham:
Have to share this: http://youtu.be/I8aW4YuFSiY watch it later! #mathchat
12:04 am
POWERORGmath:
@onmejack Right! We need to help students get to root cause for their "perceived hate" for aka frustration with math #mathchat
12:04 am
mathheadinc:
Most people are bad at math bc they had bad teaching, a bad experience, or bad health. Lack of intelligence is rarely an issue. #mathchat
12:04 am
georgewoodbury:
RT @mathheadinc If only we could convince some parents to stop saying, "Im not a math person so neither is my kid" that wld work. #mathchat
12:04 am
POWERORGmath:
RT @onmejack: I used international time zones to get students to work on maths'. Though the date line broke them #mathchat
12:04 am
dweksler:
Can most people figure the fuel economy of her/his car? Is that an important math skill?#mathchat
12:04 am
ColinTGraham:
So adults need to be able to 'unpick' texts... RT @mthman: Sometimes a barrier to a parent helping their child is the textbook! #mathchat
12:05 am
mthman:
How do we overcome the "I was never good at math" idea in a society driven by test results and "accountability?" #mathchat
12:05 am
POWERORGmath:
@onmejack Intl time lines surely kept their attention. Do you have a lesson plan/activity for that? #mathchat
12:05 am
ccampbel14:
Sorry, I am joining late today. Did you discuss the importance of interpreting stats - graphs, #s, data in general? #mathchat
12:06 am
ColinTGraham:
How many parents try to help their kids by 'teaching' the way they were taught? What if the child's teacher has a different way? #mathchat
12:06 am
mathheadinc:
@jreulbach Parents also probably believe that they're "bad" at math bc someone ELSE said it to THEM! Vicious cycle. #mathchat
12:06 am
mthman:
@ColinTGraham Teachers need to get away from textbooks driving the curriculum! Make the math more organic...pose problems! #mathchat
12:06 am
onmejack:
@POWERORGmath exactly. Show them it's not their fault. Meet them half way not make them feel stupid #mathchat
12:06 am
ColinTGraham:
@mthman My answer is if you knew you were never good, why didn't you do something about it. Stop making excuses! #mathchat
12:06 am
mathheadinc:
@jreulbach You know and I know. I convince them by teaching them a little calculus if I can get them to stay a bit. #mathchat
12:07 am
ccampbel14:
I think mental math and estimation are both important. The key is to know when to get an exact answer vs. an estimate. #mathchat
12:07 am
mthman:
@ColinTGraham What happens when parents use a method more advanced than what is expected in class? #mathchat
12:07 am
onmejack:
That's deff part of it RT @ColinTGraham: Manipulation of numerical concepts, perhaps? RT Maths' is an essential life skill. #mathchat
12:07 am
mathheadinc:
@ColinTGraham Problem is, if the teacher knows only one way & counts it wrong, that hurts the student. #mathchat
12:08 am
ColinTGraham:
@mthman I think the curriculum drives the textbooks. Publishers are not going to print stuff if it can't be sold! #mathchat
12:08 am
ccampbel14:
Many people have listed FINANCE as important but here it is only offered in the lower-level courses. Everyone needs this. #mathchat
12:08 am
Year7Numeracy:
Basic facts are critical as are their application in real contexts. #mathchat
12:08 am
georgewoodbury:
Sorry all - have to run. Thanks for a great #mathchat. I'll be back later to read! Thanks @ColinTGrahamfor moderating #mathchat
12:08 am
mathheadinc:
Too many math teachers only know one way to do something. Everything else is wrong even when it's correct. It frustrates students. #mathchat
12:08 am
ccampbel14:
Do you think our math programs emphasize too much algebra instead of statistics? Someone asked me that once. #mathchat
12:09 am
POWERORGmath:
RT @mathheadinc: Most people are bad at math bc they had bad teaching, a bad experience, or bad health. Lack of intelligence is rarely an issue. #mathchat
12:09 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
RT @ccampbel14: Many people have listed FINANCE as important but here it is only offered in the lower-level courses. Everyone needs this. #mathchat
12:09 am
onmejack:
All I ask is turn up try hard If it's an 8mark question I want 8marks of answer If you get it wrong Fine We can work on that! #mathchat
12:09 am
ColinTGraham:
@mthman Watch the Tom Lehrer video link = me being taught 'new' math which was nonsense to me. My dad showed me how he did it. #mathchat
12:10 am
jennifer_math:
@mathheadinc I agree! Most students I work with just need a different presentation of material and some confidence. #mathchat
12:10 am
mthman:
@ColinTGraham Over here, textbook publishers write texts for the largest states, despite differing standards per state. #mathchat
12:10 am
mathheadinc:
@ccampbel14 I think stats should be mandatory. It's fascinating and immensely useful in everyday life. #mathchat
12:11 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
@ccampbel14 Financial Literacy: Making Math Relevant http://bit.ly/9CmRpA #mathchat
12:11 am
ColinTGraham:
@ccampbel14 Interesting also that Florence Nightingale's legacy was used to fund a chair in Applied Statistics not Theoretical #mathchat
12:12 am
onmejack:
Yeah and a big world map;) RT @POWERORGmath: intl time lines surely kept their attention. Do you have a lesson plan for that? #mathchat
12:12 am
davidwees:
Adults need to understand statistics & probability but so few do. #mathchat
12:12 am
ColinTGraham:
@onmejack This suggests that if your students can explain/show how they arrive at the answer, wrong approaches can be corrected #mathchat
12:12 am
onmejack:
Would be a great task RT @jplonie: @philhart mostly to work out who has the best SMS prepaid deal. #mathchat
12:13 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
Financial literacy sadly lacking http://bit.ly/9V8aCj @ccampbel14 #mathchat
12:13 am
POWERORGmath:
RT @mathheadinc: Too many math teachers only know one way to do something. Everything else is wrong even when it's correct. It frustrates students. #mathchat
12:13 am
ColinTGraham:
@mthman There's a lot to be said for a National Curriculum. Sometimes I envy the French! #mathchat
12:13 am
mathheadinc:
@jreulbach WOW, SUPER!! I hope you tell your srtdents. They need to know that they can turn their grades around. #mathchat
12:14 am
ColinTGraham:
And also believe in 'coincidence' when it isn't! RT @davidwees: Adults need to understand statistics & probability but so few do. #mathchat
12:14 am
mthman:
Give a kid $10 and ask them to pick up some groceries...how likely are they to over/underestimate total? Tax? Get best deals? #mathchat
12:14 am
ColinTGraham:
@Year7Numeracy How do you determine what are facts and what are not? #mathchat
12:15 am
mathheadinc:
@POWERORGmath Lack of willing to work hard in math class (or any class) IS an issue. Teach kids to focus on personal rewards. #mathchat
12:15 am
onmejack:
Exactly 2marks worth of answer shows the didn't try I don't like that! MT @ColinTGraham: wrong approaches can be corrected #mathchat
12:15 am
ColinTGraham:
@georgewoodbury Thanks for joining us George! #mathchat
12:15 am
mthman:
@ColinTGraham We are moving in that direction w/Common Core Standards...assessment will be next! #mathchat
12:15 am
POWERORGmath:
@mathheadinc Gr8 pt. Tchrs sh show multiple ways of solving a problem=oppty to think abt other scenarios #mathchat
12:15 am
davidwees:
It is also crucial that adults recognize that math is a tool & that they can learn new math themselves after school as needed. #mathchat
12:15 am
suzteacher49:
RT @onmejack: Students say 'i hate maths' no they hate how maths' is taught the forget they use maths' all the time #mathchat
12:15 am
mathheadinc:
@jreulbach I'm fav'ing these links so I can read them after mathchat. THANKS!!!! #mathchat
12:16 am
POWERORGmath:
RT @Year7Numeracy: Basic facts are critical as are their application in real contexts. #mathchat
12:16 am
onmejack:
Have found that issues in Maths' test can be English comprehension not maths' ability. #mathchat
12:16 am
Year7Numeracy:
There are two types of teaching in the Maths classroom - teach the rule or teach understanding. Understanding is more important #mathchat
12:16 am
suburbanlion:
LOL! RT @ColinTGraham Have to share this: http://youtu.be/I8aW4YuFSiY watch it later! #mathchat
12:16 am
mathheadinc:
RT @POWERORGmath: RT @Year7Numeracy: Basic facts are critical as are their application in real contexts. #mathchat
12:16 am
ccampbel14:
Many teachers leave measurement & geometry 2 end of the year & rush thought it. ths is an area that is vry important as an adult #mathchat
12:17 am
mathheadinc:
Interesting. RT @onmejack: Have found that issues in Maths' test can be English comprehension not maths' ability. #mathchat
12:17 am
mthman:
For parents/students the term "use math" is often misunderstood as "needs a calculator, protractor, ruler, formulas, etc." #mathchat
12:17 am
ColinTGraham:
Parent/Teacher as an adult what do you actually think mathematics is? Do you recognize when you are "doing maths"? #mathchat
12:17 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
RT @Year7Numeracy: There are two types of teaching in the Maths classroom - teach the rule or teach understanding. Understanding is more important #mathchat
12:17 am
ccampbel14:
I heard that an interior designer said she chose that career because there was so little math - lol! #mathchat
12:17 am
nfrenchgillies:
RT @enpsteacher: Help me reach my goal of 300 followers! I need only 10 more! Please RETWEET! #edchat #edtech #mathchat #moodle #moodle #iwork #elemchat
12:17 am
mathheadinc:
@onmejack I guess that's why I ask a student what he THINKS something means b4 I move on. Hmmm. #mathchat
12:18 am
POWERORGmath:
@Year7Numeracy Numeracy & basic calculations are usually the cause of errors. They get higher order concepts. #mathchat
12:18 am
ccampbel14:
Maybe people don't realize when they are 'doing math' because it isn't the worksheets, drill & kill that they did in school. #mathchat
12:18 am
POWERORGmath:
RT @onmejack: @POWERORGmath exactly. Show them it's not their fault. Meet them half way not make them feel stupid #mathchat
12:18 am
suburbanlion:
You use #math! RT @ColinTGraham @Year7Numeracy How do you determine what are facts and what are not? #mathchat
12:18 am
ColinTGraham:
OK, simple task everyone... List/Tweet 4 differing areas of everyday living where you know mathematics is required. Try to specify #mathchat
12:18 am
mathheadinc:
@ccampbel14 They wait too late and rush through EVERYTHING. HS should start in 1st grade. #mathchat
12:19 am
mathheadinc:
@jreulbach That is so FANTASTIC. I love experiences like that!!! #mathchat
12:19 am
onmejack:
High standard in Maths' does NOT equal high ability in English. So we shouldn't assume so. #mathchat
12:19 am
ccampbel14:
No point memorizing formulas without understanding. They don't stick. #mathchat
12:20 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
I am gonna try more Project Based learnng Math this year.I like this: What high-school students did with $100 http://bit.ly/cHUjoM #mathchat
12:20 am
Year7Numeracy:
Try this test with adults: 6 divided by a half. Bet you most responses are 3!! That is teaching the rule - not much understanding #mathchat
12:21 am
suburbanlion:
@ColinTGraham I think people do a lot of math without even knowing it. #mathed should be about making that a conscious process. #mathchat
12:21 am
mthman:
@ColinTGraham Paying a sitter, balancing a checkbook, grocery shopping, planting a garden...how's that? #mathchat
12:21 am
ccampbel14:
Ask an adult for the formula of the circumference of a circle. They usually say 'Pi r squared'. Anyone else seen this? #mathchat
12:21 am
davidwees:
Every time I teach logic my students tell me it isn't math, it's English. Points to lack of understanding about what math is. #mathchat
12:22 am
ColinTGraham:
@Year7Numeracy But why would you want to divide by 1/2 would be my response? #mathchat
12:22 am
Year7Numeracy:
Then do this: draw 6 circles (representing cakes) and ask them to divide by a half.You get 12.This is teaching for understanding #mathchat
12:22 am
mathheadinc:
@ColinTGraham Cooking, decorating, budgeting, crash investigation...(you may not do it everyday but SOMEONE is!) #mathchat
12:22 am
Mollybmom:
@ccampbel14 not 2 mention a way 4 those that don't always have clear understanding 2 shine! #mathchat
12:22 am
ccampbel14:
@suburbanlion Exactly! People don't realize they are using math all of the time! #mathchat
12:22 am
Mollybmom:
RT @ccampbel14: Many teachers leave measurement & geometry 2 end of the year & rush thought it. ths is an area that is vry important as an adult #mathchat
12:23 am
mathheadinc:
RT @davidwees: Ea time I teach logic my Ss tell me it isn't math, it's English. Points 2 lack of understanding abt wht math is. #mathchat
12:23 am
mathheadinc:
RT @ccampbel14: No point memorizing formulas without understanding. They don't stick. #mathchat
12:23 am
ColinTGraham:
Ideas: how many rolls of wallpaper to buy for my lounge, what's the best digital TV package, how can I cut my electric bill... #mathchat
12:23 am
mathheadinc:
@ccampbel14 Ohhh, YES! #mathchat
12:24 am
davidwees:
4 areas in life math is used: Planning best driving route, buying supplies for dinner, scaling recipes, elections. #mathchat
12:24 am
ColinTGraham:
@mathheadinc Don't get me started on mathematics and language... ;-) #mathchat
12:24 am
theatrerachel:
Calculating tips, converting yards to inches, fractions in the kitchen, and figuring sale prices. #mathchat
12:25 am
mathheadinc:
BC it's interesting, 2 C wht happens. RT @ColinTGraham: @Year7Numeracy But y wld U wnt 2 divide by 1/2 wld B my response? #mathchat
12:25 am
onmejack:
Planning Journey. Paying at Til. Cooking Dinner. Crossing Road MT @ColinTGraham: Tweet 4 areas of life where maths is required. #mathchat
12:25 am
mathheadinc:
@ColinTGraham LOLOLOLOL!!! Maybe next week :D #mathchat
12:26 am
cybraryman1:
My wife, a quilter, uses the geometry she learned in school to create quilt designs.http://bit.ly/7soqN2 #mathchat
12:26 am
ccampbel14:
I think we need 2 teach students/parents 2 persevere w/ a problem if a solution isn't immediately apparent-Build up their stamina! #mathchat
12:26 am
cybraryman1:
RT @theatrerachel: Calculating tips, converting yards to inches, fractions in the kitchen, and figuring sale prices. #mathchat
12:26 am
ColinTGraham:
OK last 5 minutes... What maths were you taught that you have never used since school? #mathchat
12:26 am
cybraryman1:
RT @davidwees: 4 areas in life math is used: Planning best driving route, buying supplies for dinner, scaling recipes, elections. #mathchat
12:27 am
mathheadinc:
This is the way discoveries are made! RT @ColinTGraham: @Year7Numeracy But why would you want to divide by 1/2...#mathchat
12:27 am
ccampbel14:
I have never used conics! #mathchat
12:27 am
stampergr:
@davidwees I would add (pun intended) figuring out the tip for server. #mathchat
12:28 am
ColinTGraham:
I have never had to solve a quadratic equation, but I still remember the formula #mathchat
12:28 am
mathheadinc:
@ccampbel14 What's funny about that is conics are all around us! #mathchat
12:28 am
ccampbel14:
I have never used polynomials after high school. #mathchat
12:28 am
davidwees:
I have 4 more: choosing the best cellphone plan, splitting a restaurant bill, taxes, investing money for retirement. #mathchat
12:28 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
@ColinTGraham Quadratic Equation, Coordinate graphing, factoring #mathchat
12:29 am
mthman:
@davidwees Add another...calculating mpg between stops at the pump! #mathchat
12:29 am
ccampbel14:
I think the metric system, imperial system and conversions between them is important. But maybe not...apps for iPods! #mathchat
12:29 am
TeacherReality:
RT @davidwees: Every time I teach logic my students tell me it isn't math, it's English. Points to lack of understanding about what math is. #mathchat
12:30 am
davidwees:
@ccampbel14 I have used polynomials but I'm also an amateur computer programmer... #mathchat
12:30 am
mathheadinc:
@ccampbel14 Yes, the fast-food generation wants fast, easy answers. The best math takes grit and tenacity! #mathchat
12:30 am
mathheadinc:
RT @cybraryman1: My wife, a quilter, uses the geometry she learned in school to create quilt designs. http://bit.ly/7soqN2 #mathchat
12:30 am
ColinTGraham:
We are almost out of time, again!! Thank you everyone for another fast-and-furious #mathchat
12:30 am
davidwees:
RT @ccampbel14: I have never used polynomials after high school. #mathchat
12:30 am
mthman:
Gotta run! Thanks for the chat everyone...enjoyed it. #mathchat
12:30 am
ccampbel14:
I have never used a box and whisker plot, 4-colour theorem...both taken out of our current curriculum #mathchat
12:30 am
ColinTGraham:
We will be coming back to this topic again on Monday. Follow @mathchat for updates! #mathchat
12:31 am
ccampbel14:
@davidwees Wow, I could use that with kids. How do polynomials help programming? #mathchat
12:31 am
davidwees:
How about we host a #mathchat where we bring in our friends and colleagues who hate math and discuss why?
12:31 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
RT @ccampbel14: I have never used polynomials after high school. #mathchat
12:31 am
mathheadinc:
@ColinTGraham Great chat, THANKS! #mathchat
12:32 am
ColinTGraham:
Feel free to keep on chatting, the archive of today's discussion will be online in about 30 minutes #mathchat
12:32 am
mathheadinc:
RT @ColinTGraham: We will be coming back to this topic again on Monday. Follow @mathchat for updates! #mathchat
12:32 am
davidwees:
@ColinTGraham Never used: almost everything I teach in high school.. #mathchat
12:33 am
Nunavut_Teacher:
@ColinTGraham I have never used rules of exponents after high school. #mathchat. (This sounds like a comedy comment)
12:33 am
theatrerachel:
I have never had to calc how long it was going to take til the car going 5mi faster than me can overtake me if I am 7mi ahead. #mathchat
12:33 am
Mollybmom:
RT @ccampbel14: I think we need 2 teach students/parents 2 persevere w/ a problem if a solution isn't immediately apparent-Build up their stamina! #mathchat
12:33 am
ColinTGraham:
@davidwees OK David, you and I can discuss that! Another special for #mathchat
12:33 am
ccampbel14:
Thanks again 4 the #mathchat everyone. Love the conversation. Helps me reflect on what I value in math ed. Maybe we should write curriculum!
12:33 am
onmejack:
Pleasure to #mathchat RT @ColinTGraham: We are almost out of time, again!! Thank you everyone
12:33 am
ColinTGraham:
Except to teach it of course....! RT @davidwees: @ColinTGraham Never used: almost everything I teach in high school.. #mathchat
12:33 am
Mollybmom:
@ccampbel14 Ur so right... stick-with-it -ness is essential in prob solving! #mathchat
12:34 am
ColinTGraham:
@ccampbel14 Maybe we should abandon curriculum! ;-) #mathchat
12:35 am
ColinTGraham:
@onmejack Glad you enjoyed your first visit! #mathchat
12:36 am
ccampbel14:
RT @ColinTGraham: @ccampbel14 Maybe we should abandon curriculum! ;-) #mathchat
12:37 am
ColinTGraham:
A big thank you to all of our first-time visitors, hope you enjoyed the experience and will come back again #mathchat
12:37 am
ColinTGraham:
I read that as "comics" at first! :-D RT @ccampbel14: I have never used conics! #mathchat
12:38 am
mathheadinc:
And do FUN math (snicker, snicker)!?! RT @ccampbel14: RT @ColinTGraham: @ccampbel14 Maybe we should abandon curriculum! ;-) #mathchat
12:39 am
ccampbel14:
@mathheadinc Isn't all math fun?! I think so...that's why my students think I am so strange. #mathchat
12:41 am
mathheadinc:
@ccampbel14 SHOULD be fun. My students think I'm weird, too. We're in good company, I love it! #mathchat