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001 Differentiation
002 'Real' maths
003 Fractions
004 Manipulatives
005 Assessment
006 What technology?
007 Adult curriculum
008 Reflective Learners
009 Engagement
010 Class Time Use
011 Why I hate maths
012 Terminology
013 'Mathphobia'
014 The Nature of Maths
015 Show and Tell
016 Vertical Integration
017 Product to Process
018 Investigation Length
019 Preparation for Work
020 Success in Mathematics
021 Groupwork
022 Effective lessons
023 Impact of ICT
024 Mathematics Websites
028 Why under 16?
2010.07.15 Differentiation
2010.07.19 Differentiation (2)
2010.07.22 'Real' maths
2010.07.26 'Real' maths (2)
2010.07.29 Fractions
2010.08.02 Fractions (2)
2010.08.05 Manipulatives
2010.08.09 Manipulatives (2)
2010.08.12 Assessment
2010.08.16 Assessment (2)
2010.08.19 What tech?
2010.08.23 What tech? (2)
2010.08.26 Adult maths
2010.08.30 Adult maths (2)
2010.09.02 Reflective learner
2010.09.06 Reflective learner 2
2010.09.09 Engagement
2010.09.13 Engagement 2
2010.09.16 Class Time Use
2010.09.20 Class Time Use 2
2010.09.23 Why I hate maths
2010.09.27 Why I hate math 2
2010.09.30 Terminology
2010.10.04 Terminology 2
2010.10.07 'Mathphobia'
2010.10.11 'Mathphobia' (2)
2010.10.14 Nature of Maths
2010.10.18 Nature of Maths (2)
2010.10.21 Show and Tell
2010.10.25 Show and Tell (2)
2010.10.28 Vertical Integration
2010.11.01 Vertical Integratn 2
2010.11.04 Product to Process
2010.11.08 Product to Proc. 2
2010.11.11 Investigation length
2010.11.15 Investigation leng 2
2010.11.18 Prepn for work
2010.11.22 Prepn for work 2
2010.11.25 Success in Maths
2010.12.03 Groupwork
2010.12.06 Groupwork 2
2010.12.10 Effective lessons
2010.12.13 Effective Lesson 2
2010.12.17 Impact of ICT
2010.12.20 Impact of ICT 2
2010.12.24 Maths Websites
2011.01.03 Maths Website 2
2011.01.07 Ideal curriculum
2011.01.10 Ideal curriculum 2
2011.01.14 Short or longterm
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2011.01.21 Continuing PD
2011.01.24 Continuing PD 2
2011.01.28 Why under 16?
2011.01.31 Why under 16? (2)
2011.02.04 Which is more fun?
2011.02.11 Blended learning
2011.02.14 Blended learning 2
2011.02.18 Fast tracking
2011.02.21 Fast tracking (2)
2011.02.25 Misconceptions
2011.02.28 Misconceptions 2
2011.03.04 Good Reads
2011.03.07 Good Reads (2)
2011.03.11 How do I  fractions
2011.03.18 How do I  lang
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2011.04.15 How?Investigation
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2011.04.22 How? Do vs. learn
2011.04.25 How?Do vs learn 2
2011.04.29 How?Dig deeper
2011.05.02 How?Dig deeper 2
2011.05.06 'Big Ideas'
2011.05.09 'Big Ideas' (2)
2011.05.13 High school skill
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2011.05.20 Journals
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2011.05.27 Studentdriven
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2011.06.03 How?  Maths play
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2011.06.10 Deeper thinking
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2011.06.17 How?  Disjointed
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2011.06.24 How?  Problems
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2011.07.01 Holiday maths
2011.10.28 Extent of plans
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2011.11.04 Authentic is..?
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Topic (followup to Thursday 5th August):
What are 'brilliant' activities with manipulatives?
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Monday, 9th August 19:30  21:00 GMT
ColinTGraham
Hello everyone. Welcome to another chance to visit last week's topic: "What are 'brilliant' activities with manipulatives?" #mathchat
ColinTGraham
If it is your first time welcome! Don't forget to add the hashtag #mathchat to your Tweets
ColinTGraham
I am using TweetGrid.
http://mathschat.wikispaces.com/Z_Set+up+TweetGrid
#mathchat
ColinTGraham
Last time we started by discussing what we mean by manipulative. So when you talk about a manipulative what do you mean? #mathchat
Cassyt
I'm getting realtime search results at TweetGrid
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#mathchat
ColinTGraham
@Cassyt It looks like you and I so far Cassy! When you talk about a manipulative what do you mean? #mathchat
Cassyt
Hmm that autotweet is annoying. #mathchat
Cassyt
Manipulatives: place value discs base10 blocks PV Chart fraction strips Algebra tiles... #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@Cassyt You don't have to send the autotweet though! I usually type over it... #mathchat
ColinTGraham
More generally how about pencil paper fingers virtual...? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
RT @ajw0812: @ColinTGraham something that the student can physically hold and "play" with #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@ajw0812 Don't forget the #mathchat
Cassyt
Personal whiteboard created from page protector and inserts is one of my fave manipulative. #mathchat
POWERORGmath
#mathchat dice colored tiles candy 'anything' that c/b moved physically to help visualize situation in multiple ways
ajw0812
i wouldn't include things like a pencil unless it was somehow used to help with the lesson objective #mathchat
ColinTGraham
How about online applications? Would you say any of those were manipulatives? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
Used how? RT @Cassyt: Personal whiteboard created from page protector and inserts is one of my fave manipulative. #mathchat
ajw0812
perhaps being semantic. online not a manipulative unless student is controlling cursor #mathchat
ColinTGraham
My definition of a manipulative is anything which gives a handson experience or chance to explore a concept/activity #mathchat
Cassyt
Provide a problem series of equations for mental math calculation & have students flip upside down.... #mathchat
Cassyt
I say "Show me the answer" and they hold them over their heads. I can assess a classroom of kids in 10 sec. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@Cassyt Do they write on their personal whiteboards with an erasable pen? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
Student control being key here RT @ajw0812: perhaps being semantic. online not a manipulative unless student is controlling cursor #mathchat
Cassyt
Prefer page protectors over showerboard because I can insert 100's charts games blank number bonds PV charts. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@Cassyt page protectors may be an American or Canadian term... basically a letter/A4 plastic folder that holds one or two sheets? #mathchat
POWERORGmath
@ColinTGraham #mathchat I luv library of virtual manipulatives nctm.org Illuminations
ColinTGraham
Link? RT @Fouss: @ColinTGraham @Cassyt Just found whiteboard crayons the other day  they work! And won't dry out. :) #mathchat
POWERORGmath
RT @ColinTGraham: My defin of a manipulative=anything which gives a handson experience/chance to explore a concept/activity #mathchat
Cassyt
Post & pictures of "interactive" whiteboards from a blog post last year:
http://bit.ly/d2dYWu
#mathchat
ColinTGraham
There are a lot of links on the page from last week's chat:
http://mathchatarchive.wikispaces.com/004+Manipulatives
#mathchat
Cassyt
I tell students: "Let me hear your markers "click" to remind them to get caps on tight. #mathchat
POWERORGmath
RT @Cassyt: Prefer page protectors over showerboard because I can insert 100's charts games blank number bonds PV charts. #mathchat
Cassyt
I sue baby socks for erasers. They can be washed they hold the marker & they're 6 socks for $1 at the local dollar store. #mathchat
POWERORGmath
@Cassyt #mathchat I have copied charts on cardstock & laminated; works well too
ColinTGraham
@Cassyt I think you mean use not sue! #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@Cassyt How is an individual whiteboard a manipulative rather than a piece of paper apart from eco issues! #mathchat
Cassyt
The laminator at school never worked well. :( @POWERORGmath #mathchat
ColinTGraham
RT @Fouss:
http://bit.ly/dauhuG
. I found them at Toys 'r Us B1G1 free. @jybuell $2 a box I think. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@Fouss don't forget to use #mathchat
POWERORGmath
#mathchat we are purchasing interactive devices for Mobile Math Lab that are like Smartbds on most surfaces
POWERORGmath
@Cassyt #mathchat ... Sheet projectors reign supreme!!
ColinTGraham
I have to say I see the personal whiteboard as part of increasing student voice rather than being a manipulative directly #mathchat
Cassyt
Guess it depends on the definition. RT @ColinTGraham: @Cassyt How is an indivi whiteboard a manipulative #mathchat
iteachyear4
RT @Cassyt: I tell students: "Let me hear your markers "click" to remind them to get caps on tight. #mathchat <I'll remember that one!
ColinTGraham
Let's return to some of our earlier comments about physical objects such as blocks tiles etc. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
What activities do you do where you always introduce some kind of physical manipulative  including online with student control #mathchat
Cassyt
How about place value disks? They are more abstract than base 10 blocks and you can make or buy them. FYII work with elem. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
For anyone just joining us: "What are 'brilliant' activities with manipulatives?" #mathchat
Cassyt
No access to online in school I taught at for a group of elem. students only 2 pcs in classroom & no projector. #mathchat
iteachyear4
Things like market places with money and real objects? #mathchat
ajw0812
when first introducing coordinate plane will have plane drawn on floor and have students "walk around" as points #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@ajw0812 Does your classroom have carpet squares or similar? I used to annoy my head of dept by always asking for these! #mathchat
iteachyear4
@ajw0812 Do similar but we have a blank 100square painted on playground which is handy #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@iteachyear4 How would you organize the market place? Real money/photocopies/coins/foreign exchange? Ss decide product prices? #mathchat
ajw0812
I have used algeblocksl oneonone with students who are struggling with integer subtraction particularly with negative numbers #mathchat
Cassyt
Did this to song "Tootsie Roll" RT @ajw0812: introduce coord. planedraw plane on floor & have students walk points #mathchat
ajw0812
@colintgraham no tile floors. would use blue tape to mark the floor. tough to do if you share classrooms #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@Cassyt Place value disks  DIY... any other examples of DIY because of lack of access to IT or other expensive resources #mathchat
Cassyt
I invest in connect a cubes but you could use 4 prong Legos. #mathchat
Cassyt
Made a # line the length of classroom wall with laminated paper & velcro strip for line... #mathchat
ajw0812
@cassty i like the use of music. i'll have to give it a go! #mathchat
iteachyear4
@ColinTGraham I let them decide what they wanted to sell and what price. Or have objects I can buy before and use plastic money #mathchat
iteachyear4
Would Numicon be suitable contribution to this discussion? #mathchat
Saskateach
@Cassyt how do you use place value disks? Are they different than using place value cards? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
My 'musthave' for manipulatives are the Lego red bucket a stack of origami (square paper) and cuisenaire rods #mathchat
Cassyt
...used index cards w/fractions %age money time etc.. (w/opposite velcro piece) to put on the number line. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@iteachyear4 More information about Numicon? link/description for those unfamiliar with it... #mathchat
fnoschese
RT @mrplough07: Vote for a Math Teacher Blog to be the #edBlog of the Week
http://bit.ly/9Q40lc
#scichat #mathchat
Cassyt
With PV chart. RT @Saskateach: how do you use place value disks? Are they different than using place value cards? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
What 'musthave' manipulatives would you put on your list? #mathchat
iteachyear4
Numicon
http://bit.ly/a4YfdI
Got given some last yearstill not sure I see real benefits over other ways although some swear by it #mathchat
Cassyt
Number disks look like this:
http://bit.ly/biv4EE
ualthoughgh I've used paper ones & modified poker chips. #mathchat
Saskateach
@Cassyt Oh I see so place value disks will be less cumbersome than base 10 blocks. Love it!!! #mathchat
ajw0812
for algebra classes I would suggest graphing calculators! #mathchat
Cassyt
@Saskateach And more abstract. Didn't they use these at your PD today? #mathchat
oxfordlearning
RT @POWERORGmath: #mathchat dice colored tiles candy "anything" that c/b moved physically to help visualize situation in multiple ways
ColinTGraham
Do any of you get the students to make their own set of manipulatives? For example I always get them to make their own tangrams #mathchat
ColinTGraham
There is a lot of resistance even now to graph calc use! RT @ajw0812: for algebra classes I would suggest graphing calculators! #mathchat
Cassyt
You bet depending on age. RT @ColinTGraham: Do any of you get the students to make their own set of manipulatives? #mathchat
iteachyear4
I used to love graphing calculators! Wish I taught where they could be used! #mathchat
ajw0812
interesting. Resistance in that it will do work for the student? And that student will not understand underlying principles? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
Do you investigate different dice shapes or use the 'usual' 6sided cubes? RT @POWERORGmath: dice... #mathchat
ajw0812
I understand that but if taught and used correctly I think it is a necessary skill to know how to use a graphing calc properly #mathchat
ajw0812
I understand that but if taught and used correctly I think it is a necessary skill to know how to use a graphing calc properly #mathchat
Saskateach
@Cassyt Haven't used disks yet but still have an hour to go. Maybe they are yet to come. #mathchat
iteachyear4
Books are a great source of ideas too. Egg Drop Blockhead Fibbonachi etc #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@ajw0812 Resistance comes because of assessment issues I think. Not enough imagination about using graph calcs to build understdg #mathchat
ajw0812
for probability have used numbered cubes playing cards and coins as manipulatives #mathchat
ColinTGraham
If graphical calcs are not available then GeoGebra and other online manipulatives may offer an alternative. #mathchat
POWERORGmath
#mathchat sticky notes for dec frac % conversion tables (works well with pushpins/paper on interactive bulletin boards)
ColinTGraham
@ajw0812 I always use Smarties or M&Ms for probability! Boxes of wine gums too... #mathchat
ColinTGraham
I mentioned fingers... Does anyone teach finger multiplication or addition (Chisenbop for example)? #mathchat
ajw0812
@colintgraham can never go wrong using mms to determine experimental probability of how many reds are in a bag! #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
It's my big rule of thumb to always make our own manipulatives with students but also use wellcrafted tools like compasses #mathchat
Cassyt
Wine gums? Sounds illegal here! RT @ColinTGraham: @ajw0812 I always use Smarties or M&Ms... Boxes of wine gums too... #mathchat
ajw0812
i noticed on the links from last week there were two using fingers (multiplication and binary adding) #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@POWERORGmath Do you use the bulletin board/pushpins so fractions % conversion etc can be reordered or for grouping? #mathchat
POWERORGmath
RT @ColinTGraham: If graphical calcs are not available then GeoGebra and other online manipulatives may offer an alternative. #mathchat
MaryKayG
Use collection of square tiles to determine if # of tiles is prime or composite. The visual is key for many students. #mathchat
Cassyt
Not Chisenbop. Have made & used abacus. RT @ColinTGraham: I mentioned fingers. (Chisenbop for example)? #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
I use raisins and nuts  we avoid sugar to prevent "sugar crash" during math activities. Also Apple Math is popular #mathchat
POWERORGmath
Yes RT @ajw0812: if taught and used correctly I think it is a necessary skill to know how to use a graphing calc properly #mathchat
ColinTGraham
No wine involved other than the names on the different shapes and colours! RT @Cassyt: Wine gums? Sounds illegal here! #mathchat
Saskateach
I also like to use natural items as manips in my class to honor nature and First Nations students (ie. rocks shells pine ones). #mathchat
ajw0812
@cassyt My US interpretation. Wine for teacher at night while lesson planning. Gummies for students during instruction! #mathchat
POWERORGmath
Different dice shapes and die with operations add variety w/random order of operation practice #mathchat
ColinTGraham
To avoid confusion:
http://www.aquarterof.co.uk/maynardswinegumsp109.html
!! #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
Apple math brings up a lot of parent stories from my math clubs
http://1ps.us/er5f2r
#mathchat
Cassyt
I like Marcy Cook math tile activities: find the x tile and mixed op balance cards. #mathchat
POWERORGmath
RT @MaryKayG: Collection of square tiles to determine if # of tiles is prime or composite. The visual is key for many students. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
What areas of the curriculum would you like to have manipulatives for but find it difficult to introduce them? #mathchat
iteachyear4
Bags of coins  probability of pulling out a 5p etc or pouring them out onto table  how many heads/tails #mathchat
ajw0812
i liked the idea of having students come up with ideas for manipulatives. Has anyone done this? How did it work? #mathchat
vickyloras
RT @Saskateach I also like 2use natural items as manips in my class 2honor nature + #FirstNations ss(ie.rocksshellspine cones). #mathchat
ColinTGraham
RT @POWERORGmath: @ColinTGraham Used for reordering. Can be used for regrouping matching equivalent fractions also #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
@ajw0812 I invited kids to figure out how to play 3d tictactoe and every kid came up with their own manipulative for dimensions #mathchat
ajw0812
@ColinTGraham I've only taught Algeb. Would like manips for tough areas like system of equations and square roots/exponents #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@ajw0812 I have rarely found that students (11+) can 'create' mathrelated anything when that was the focus of the task... #mathchat
POWERORGmath
RT @ColinTGraham: What areas of the curriculum would you like to have manipulatives for but find it difficult to introduce them? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@ajw0812 You should definitely check out the calculus map!
http://www.mathman.biz/html/map.html
#mathchat
MariaDroujkova
Topology manipulatives had me in knots... But people gave good advice I'll try when the Club starts
http://1ps.us/kd2hb3
#mathchat
ajw0812
@MariaDroujkova Neat! Did it take some time to explain the 3D aspect to some students? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@MariaDroujkova Haha! Maths joke there Maria! I prefer topological doughnuts myself... ;) #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
@ColinTGraham We made abacuses for different bases (each kid picked a base) and that was a semiopen task (79 yo). #mathchat
POWERORGmath
RT @ColinTGraham: @ajw0812 You should definitely check out the calculus map!
http://www.mathman.biz/html/map.html
#mathchat
POWERORGmath
RT @ajw0812: @ColinTGraham I've only taught Algeb. Would like manips for system of equations & sq roots/exponents #mathchat
ColinTGraham
Age seems to be a factor. At what point do you or your students think manipulatives should not be used? Whether helping or not #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
@ajw0812 Well we played online 3d and 4d tictactoe first then the challenge was to make it in our physical space. #mathchat
iteachyear4
@ColinTGraham Is it age or ability that is the limit? #mathchat
MaryKayG
@ajw0812 Did this with new manipulatives  pretended to lose the instruction page and asked class for help/ideas for their use. #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
@ColinTGraham "A topologist is someone who does not know the difference between a cup and a doughnut" #mathchat
Cassyt
Should be used to providea visual when introducing new concepts but goal should be for students to move to more abstract . #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@iteachyear4 I have seen it as being both. Some 'able' Ss don't want to 'play'. Older Ss don't want to be seen relying on manips. #mathchat
POWERORGmath
#mathchat Gr8 ideas for manips. when studs make up own games to demonstrate understanding of theme based concepts (geom alg etc)
ColinTGraham
A common theme with most mathematics teaching seems to be: Concrete/physical > Pictorial/visual > Abstract/symbolic #mathchat
MaryKayG
@ColinTGraham I don't think teachers should ever withdraw access to manipulatives. #mathchat
ajw0812
@MaryKayG Clever! The "old lose the instruction page" trick. What grade do you teach? #mathchat
iteachyear4
@ColinTGraham Suppose my experience is limited to upper primary but I have seen LAs being happier to use them over HAs #mathchat
MaryKayG
@Cassyt I agree but I should still be able to use manipulatives even though you are ready for the abstract. #mathchat
Cassyt
It's what top countries do & the NCTM recommends. RT @ColinTGraham: Concrete/physical > Pictorial/visual > Abstract/symbolic #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@MaryKayG I have also used the instruction book by cutting it up into separate instructions and getting Ss to reconstruct it #mathchat
stangea
@Saskateach: I also like to use natural items as manips in my class.  I like the idea of natural for whatever reason. #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
@Saskateach I use things that feel look and possibly smell good. A lot of natural materials do but some plastic counters do too #mathchat
ColinTGraham
So in the final ten minutes... What do you think are absolutely essential manipulatives & activities for introducing concepts? #mathchat
ColinTGraham
@stangea When you say natural  do you mean pebbles rocks trees flowers etc...? #mathchat
MariaDroujkova
Essential manipulatives! Paper scissors glue. Wire. Modeling clay. Graph paper. "Multitudes with attributes" (rich counters) #mathchat
ColinTGraham
Essentials for me: dice (tetrahedral cubic dodecahedral icosahedral) huge stack of paper lego red bucket cuisenaire rods #mathchat
MaryKayG
If I had access to only 1 manipulative I'd choose 2sided square tiles but I'd also want pattern blocks geoboards and Cuis.rods #mathchat
Saskateach
@ColinTGraham Yes items from nature not necess. a store. Cheaper and honoring to nature. #mathchat
ajw0812
i think the key is "introduction". Use them in the beginning so everyone deeply understands concepts. #mathchat
ColinTGraham
And let's not forget packets of sweets/chocolates/etc! #mathchat
ColinTGraham
OK everyone we are almost out of time again! Feel free to keep chatting and welcome to our newcomers! Use www.blastfollow.com + #mathchat
ajw0812
so algeblocks for beginning of algebra. and GeoGebra for graphing. candy for probability ... #mathchat
ColinTGraham
Follow @mathchat to get updates on the Wiki. Don't forget to vote for the next topic!
http://bit.ly/c9KL7s
#mathchat
ColinTGraham
You can also have a look at last week's chat:
http://bit.ly/c8IqWK
and some of the resources:
http://bit.ly/dv8k8y
#mathchat
ColinTGraham
Thank you for your participation everyone catch you next time! #mathchat
iteachyear4
@ColinTGraham Thank you for moderating :) #mathchat
POWERORGmath
Reading & crit thinking ยป @ColinTGraham: cutting up instructions into separate parts 4 Ss to reconstruct it #mathchat
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